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From: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
To: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Revolution
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 02:38:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705240238.37972.jon@ffconsultancy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070524.071405.12188035.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>

On Wednesday 23 May 2007 23:14:05 Jacques Garrigue wrote:
> But... this is exactly the kind of things for which you can already
> use concurrency in ocaml. For instance, lablgtk2 provides a GtkThread
> module, which lets you run the GUI in another thread, and post updates
> asynchronously. This is also possible with labltk, albeit not
> documented.
> I do not say this is elegant in its current form, but we are limited
> by the underlying library.

I appreciate the limitations of the existing GUI libraries on Linux. I'll try 
to translate some of the examples from the tutorials into F# and show you the 
difference.

I'm going to let you in on a recurring dream of mine. Ever since I saw how 
easy .NET makes GUI and web programming, and ever since I saw the demos of a 
Windows GUI based on hardware-accelerated vector graphics in Vista, Windows 
Presentation Foundation and now Silverlight, I have wanted to see this on 
Linux.

The fact is, the OCaml community are extraordinarily talented and I've been 
sitting on the OCaml translation of our hardware-accelerated vector graphics 
engine for years. We are in the process of translating this into F# for 
Windows:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/fsharp_for_visualization/

and we already have customers.

Is there any chance that we can team up to produce Linux's Vista- and 
Silverlight-killer and write the whole thing in OCaml?

Here are my ideas:

1. A new GUI library written in a functional style that renders controls as 
vector graphics via Smoke. Everything is rendered using OpenGL but abstracted 
behind Smoke.

2. Typesetting graphical IDEs for programming with integrated visualization.

3. A document format to replace HTML that provides mathematical typesetting 
and embedded, scriptable 2D and 3D vector graphics, and a browser to 
view/edit these documents.

Does anyone else find this idea awe inspiring?

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
The F#.NET Journal
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/fsharp_journal/?e


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-24  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22 22:10 Teaching bottomline, part 3: what should improve David Teller
2007-05-22 22:22 ` [Caml-list] " William D. Neumann
2007-05-23 13:07   ` David Teller
2007-05-22 22:26 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-05-22 23:16 ` skaller
2007-05-23  2:46   ` David Thomas
2007-05-23  9:19   ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-23 12:49     ` Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 13:36       ` Gerd Stolpmann
2007-05-23 14:06         ` skaller
2007-05-23 14:54       ` Florian Hars
2007-05-23 15:11         ` Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 21:48       ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-24  8:04         ` Markus E.L.
2007-05-24  8:32           ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-24  9:51             ` skaller
2007-05-24 11:22               ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-05-23 13:55   ` David Teller
2007-05-22 23:19 ` skaller
2007-05-23 10:41   ` Richard Jones
2007-05-23 13:04     ` David Teller
2007-05-24 13:51       ` Richard Jones
2007-05-24 14:00         ` Robert Fischer
2007-05-24 14:00       ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-24 14:20         ` Robert Fischer
2007-05-24 14:34         ` David Teller
2007-05-24 14:21       ` skaller
2007-05-22 23:39 ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-23 18:54   ` Richard Jones
2007-05-23 19:27     ` Robert C Fischer
2007-05-23 19:34       ` Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 19:54         ` Robert Fischer
2007-05-23 21:46       ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-23 22:14         ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-05-24  1:38           ` Jon Harrop [this message]
2007-05-24  2:40             ` [Caml-list] Revolution skaller
2007-05-24  3:21             ` Chris King
2007-05-24 14:24               ` David Teller
2007-05-24 13:40         ` [Caml-list] Teaching bottomline, part 3: what should improve Brian Hurt
2007-05-23 19:29     ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-23 20:20   ` David Teller
2007-05-24 14:18     ` Jon Harrop
2007-05-24 14:23     ` skaller

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