From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_FAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451E3BC37 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:53:30 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhICAL0nMUpQW+UCe2dsb2JhbACYQAEBFiMEtweCQYFJBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,204,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="27878479" Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) ([80.91.229.2]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 12 Jun 2009 00:53:29 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MEt9D-0007Q0-Ra for caml-list@inria.fr; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:53:27 +0000 Received: from ks300734.kimsufi.com ([91.121.65.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:53:27 +0000 Received: from sylvain by ks300734.kimsufi.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:53:27 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: caml-list@inria.fr From: Sylvain Le Gall Subject: Re: The state of ML: multi-threaded, saved state and support platforms Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4A310EE5.7070704@inf.ed.ac.uk> <20090611154910.GA27827@annexia.org> <4A317AA8.40209@inf.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ks300734.kimsufi.com User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-2 (Linux) Sender: news X-Spam: no; 0.00; le-gall:01 0100,:01 ocaml:01 bug:01 implements:01 ocaml:01 bug:01 lucas:98 dixon:98 2009:98 lucas:98 dixon:98 hotline:98 wrote:01 wrote:01 Hello On 11-06-2009, Lucas Dixon wrote: > Richard Jones wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:04:21PM +0100, Lucas Dixon wrote: > >>> 3. Lastly, can you help me get a good picture of the state of support >>> for ML systems: >>> >>> OCaml: is this still supported by INRIA? what is the level of support? >> >> What level of support are you looking for? > > I was wondering who pays for the documentation to be kept up to date, > bug fixes, and implements new features.I saw that there is an OCaml > Consortium: http://caml.inria.fr/consortium/index.en.html > Is this INRIA or something else? Is this the source of funding that > supports OCaml? or is there INRIA backing also? Does anyone know how > many people are employed? I'm interested in how to support functional > programming environments. What level of financial support is needed? > Caml Consortium is INRIA. If I remember correctly the overall funding of the consortium help INRIA to pay for a half time job. Most of the people working on OCaml are INRIA Cristal/Gallium team or former team member that do things when they are needed (TM). It includes bug fixes, new release and implementation of very specific features that need to have a language level support. My company, OCamlCore is member of the consortium. >> OCaml users will give you >> support through the ocaml-beginners mailing list which is active and >> most questions are answered within a few hours. If you want "call >> someone on the phone and drop everything" support then you'll have to >> pay (a lot). > > Are there organisations that offer OCaml support over the phone? Or > would that be consultancy rates for academics who specialise in OCaml? > The OCaml Consortium offers: 3000 Euros for a minimal support to Caml, > 10000 Euros or higher for more. But doesn't give much details - has > anyone ever purchased this? > My company (OCamlCore) provide services around OCaml. It can include "support over the phone" if some company need it. I think that "support" in Caml Consortium term, is something not user oriented (like "10 bugs corrected in a year" or "10 hour of hotline + 1 day of training"). This is mostly a place where company can provide financial "support" to the INRIA team developing the language and in exchange receive special licensing option for OCaml. Regards, Sylvain Le Gall