From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_FAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EB7BBC1 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:59:19 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAPqVz0fAXQInh2dsb2JhbACQeAEBAQgKKZpm X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,456,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="8083247" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2008 15:59:19 +0100 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m26ExJgG022144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:59:19 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAPqVz0dQW+UCh2dsb2JhbACQeAEBAQgKKZpm X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,456,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="9045980" Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) ([80.91.229.2]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2008 15:59:18 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JXHYv-0004Nn-SI for caml-list@inria.fr; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:59:14 +0000 Received: from ks300734.kimsufi.com ([91.121.65.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:59:13 +0000 Received: from sylvain by ks300734.kimsufi.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:59:13 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: caml-list@inria.fr From: Sylvain Le Gall Subject: Re: OSR - Three Admin Questions Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <47CFE8C3.7000108@cis.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ks300734.kimsufi.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl2 (Debian) Sender: news X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 47D006C7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; le-gall:01 ocaml:01 followup:01 drift:98 wrote:01 face:97 face:97 consensus:04 consensus:04 proposals:05 fails:05 fails:05 discussion:06 depend:07 linked:07 On 06-03-2008, Peter Gregory wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been following all of the OSR discussion with great interest. I've > currently got three questions about it though: > > 1. How is delivery of our "community ocaml" going to work? > > 2. Sadly I couldn't make the Paris meet, are there going to be followup > meetings? Maybe next year. It will depend on people who are interested that this meeting happen again. > > 3. How do we decide on a consensus for an OSR proposal? > Sometimes ago, i propose to put the OSR on vote at a certain date. The answer was something like: "better use the IEEE (or W3C, don't remember) way to do: talk until a consensus happens". > Personally, I think the answers to these questions are linked. A system > that I would like to see is something like: a community release every > six months, meetings a couple of months before release, final decisions > made about which suggestions make the release decided in the meeting. I > think it would be better to decide in a face-to-face setting which > proposals are best, as a mailing list just leads to endless forking of > conversation and drift from original topics. > This could be an idea. I am not sure that people can end up with a solution however -- even with a meeting face to face. To my mind a solution like "put everything there (including test + kind of build system), if it builds and pass all the test, this is good for release". If something fails, just remove it. If a lot of things fails, don't release. Regards, Sylvain Le Gall