From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_FAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE67BC74 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:55:38 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAN4cZkfAXQImh2dsb2JhbACQBQEBAQgKKZlI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,177,1196636400"; d="scan'208";a="6922283" Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by mail3-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 15:55:38 +0100 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBHEtZAI030892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:55:38 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJIcZkdQW+UCh2dsb2JhbACQBQEBAQgKKZk+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,177,1196636400"; d="scan'208";a="5283007" Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) ([80.91.229.2]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 15:55:32 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4HNG-0006WH-Li for caml-list@inria.fr; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:55:18 +0000 Received: from ks300734.kimsufi.com ([91.121.65.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:55:18 +0000 Received: from sylvain by ks300734.kimsufi.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:55:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: caml-list@inria.fr From: Sylvain Le Gall Subject: [was: Installing libraries ?] OCaml meeting in Paris Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1197848427.6258.42.camel@Blefuscu> <1197892563-sup-1822@ausone.inria.fr> <001101c840ac$d16ccc20$6402a8c0@countertenor> <47668416.7000502@exalead.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ks300734.kimsufi.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl2 (Debian) Sender: news X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 47668DE7.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; le-gall:01 ocaml:01 berke:01 durak:01 berke:01 durak:01 ocamlfind:01 ocaml:01 ocamlfind:01 compilation:01 2007,:98 wrote:01 span:97 ens:03 seems:03 On 17-12-2007, Berke Durak wrote: > Sylvain Le Gall a écrit : >> OCamlfind is the best tool around for managing libraries in ocaml. >> OCaml distributions, like debian or godi, already provide a support for >> it. Most of the time missing META file are even provided by these >> distributions. Allowing an easy use of it could be a very good point for >> all (and the continuation of an implicit policy). >> >> I know there is already a piece of ocamlbuild plugin to integrate >> ocamlfind, the BEST way to continue this work is to allow to fully >> integrate ocamlfind and ocamlbuild through this work. > > Hello, > > I agree. I think Ocamlfind and Godi are nice pieces of work, and it > certainly would be better if we could integrate existing systems. > > We all love Ocaml, but there seems to be an important problem with it. > > Unlike most programming languages of similar magnitude, Ocaml doesn't > have a developer conference where its users could meet face-to-face and > discuss these kind of things... (or did I miss something?) If not, we > should organize one. > > Ocaml users span half a dozen continents but we could start with a small > gathering in Paris. I'd suggest late January. > > We could then discuss distribution, building, packaging and other > issues; and publish guidelines for a "request for implementation" -- > things we would like to see in an integrated compilation and package > manager. > > People would then implement different solutions and we could gather two > months later to evaluate the proposals. > > Does anyone have a proposal for a gathering place? +1 I agree with the date. The gathering place will depend on the number of people coming and the time (1h - 1 week end?) I tend to think that it is better to meet longer when trying to implement something (setup a build environment take at least 1 hour, so the meeting should last a lot longer than this...). If the meeting is informal (2-3 hours), we could meet in a bar in Paris (i have several proposition concerning this). If we want something longer, we should contact people that have access to some better place (ENST, ENS, Paris VI... Exalead?) Maybe doing this during a week end should be a good solution. I will be there anyway ;-) Regards, Sylvain Le Gall