From: qrczak@knm.org.pl (Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk)
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Cc: Dave Berry <dave@kal.com>
Subject: Re: Language Design
Date: 1 Sep 2000 19:12:24 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrn8qvvso.ljc.qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3145774E67D8D111BE6E00C0DF418B662D78C0@nt.kal.com>
Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:57:13 +0100, Dave Berry <dave@kal.com> pisze:
> Given a value in a monad, e.g. IO v, how can I remove v from the Monad?
For Haskell's IO monad, you don't have a function of type IO v -> v.
IO is carried up to main, the "action of the whole program".
Other monads may or may not provide a similar function.
> Surely this would be required to seamlessly integrate stateful and
> functional code?
In a pure language it is not possible to create a function which does
I/O when applied. If an operation may do I/O, it is reflected in its
type and usage. It may be considered a good thing, and is practically
a must in a lazy language.
In some Haskell implementations there is monad called ST (state
transformer) which provides mutable references and arrays, and can
be wrapped in a pure function. Not all stateful code requires IO.
Actually in some implementations there is unsafePerformIO :: IO a -> a
but it's, well, unsafe. It's sometimes very useful for real life
problems.
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2000-09-01 11:57 Dave Berry
2000-09-01 17:48 ` Markus Mottl
2000-09-01 19:12 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk [this message]
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2000-09-06 6:33 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
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2000-08-23 5:55 ` John Max Skaller
2000-08-24 9:12 ` Francois Pottier
2000-08-24 20:16 ` John Max Skaller
2000-08-25 9:52 ` Andreas Rossberg
2000-08-27 22:00 ` John Max Skaller
2000-08-28 23:11 ` Daan Leijen
2000-08-25 15:41 ` Jerome Vouillon
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