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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 16:02:34 +0200 [thread overview]
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Hello
Here is the latest OCaml Weekly News, for the week of June 17 to 24,
2025.
Table of Contents
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Multi-domain, multi-scheduler Lwt
15th MirageOS retreat May 13th - 20th
opam 2.4.0~beta1
ML Family Workshop 2025: Call for Presentations
Migrating OCaml.org to Use Dune (Developer Preview)
Send us Talk and Workshop Proposals for Fun OCaml 2025 in Warsaw, September 15+16
A Brief Introduction to Normalization-By-Evaluation
My Second Outreachy Internship's Blog Post
Other OCaml News
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Multi-domain, multi-scheduler Lwt
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/multi-domain-multi-scheduler-lwt/16834/1>
Raphaël Proust announced
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I have started working on changing [Lwt] to allow multiple schedulers
to run in parallel in separate domains. The current status is early
work-in-progress with some actual tests that actually use the
multi-scheduler feature ([Draft PR]).
This is still far from release. There are some major changes still
needed (e.g., signal management, improve callback sending, restoring
some broken single-domain tests, etc.). Still, I'd like to gather
feedback from users of Lwt, especially those with hefty code bases and
those who need to bring their legacy code bases into the ocaml-5 era
(but don't hesitate to contribute even if that's not the case).
[Lwt] <https://github.com/ocsigen/lwt>
[Draft PR] <https://github.com/ocsigen/lwt/pull/1058>
What kind of uses would you make of a multi-scheduler multi-domain scheduler?
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"None" is a valid response. Maybe you don't want to use parallelism in
your Lwt-based codebase.
I can see several reasonable uses:
• a worker pool so you dispatch your server's requests to different
cores (but you don't really need to rewrite much of your code, you
can keep your lwt handlers, just set up a few domains and a few
streams to send work around)
• having mutliple schedulers into which you can run lwt bits of code
(e.g., via `run_in_domain: Domain.id -> (unit -> 'a Lwt.t) -> 'a',
the multi-domain equivalent to `run_in_main') from a "proper"
multi-domain code
and also some maybe less reasonable uses:
• writing some mixed lwt and regular old-fashion just-Unix blocking
code, and passing it off to a separate domain so it doesn't block
your main scheduler
What parts of Lwt would you expect to be safe to share freely amongst domains? What parts would you expect to have safety checks?
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Currently, the WIP version, allows you to attach callbacks to promises
regardless of which domain they were created in (safe to "read" any
promise). It means that promises are not attached to a particular
domain, but callbacks are.
OTOH there are no efforts made to prevent data-races for wakeners
(unsafe to "write" the same promise from two different domains). In
most cases, `Lwt.wakeup' (and friends) should only be used to create
new Lwt-friendly abstractions (e.g., [lache]) so there is little
reason for them to move across domains. Still, is that something that
should be taken into account?
More generally, should the domain-safe abstractions replace the
existing ones (e.g., should `Lwt_stream' make it safe to push/read
from the same stream in parallel) or should there be new domain-safe
abstractions (e.g., an additional `Lwt_stream_par')? And what
performance cost for single-domain programs is acceptable in order to
make multi-domain programs safe?
[lache]
<https://ocaml.org/p/aches-lwt/latest/doc/Lache/module-type-MAP/index.html>
Is one scheduler per-domain the right granularity/abstraction?
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Would it be better to offer one scheduler per thread? Is there little
point in offering unlimited schedulers to begin with?
15th MirageOS retreat May 13th - 20th
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/ann-15th-mirageos-retreat-may-13th-20th/16085/3>
Continuing this thread, Calascibetta Romain announced
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As @gasche, I also wrote an article about this retreat which synthesis
(not exhaustively) what I did with some other people. But, despite
@gasche, I published it into my blog here (which is an unikernel):
<https://blog.osau.re/articles/last_mirageos_retreat.html>. Enjoy
reading!
opam 2.4.0~beta1
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Archive: <https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/ann-opam-2-4-0-beta1/16856/1>
Kate announced
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Hi everyone,
We are happy and relieved to announce the first beta release of opam
2.4.0.
This version is an beta, we invite users to test it to spot previously
unnoticed bugs as we head towards the stable release, which hopefully
shouldn't take too long.
Changes
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• :dragon_face: Fixed a handful of bugs in `opam install --deps-only
<local dir>' more visible in 2.4, where some actions would use the
local packages' definition or write to the internal opam state as if
they were actually pinned ([#6529], [#6532], [#6501], [#6535])
• :yarn: Change the behaviour of `--deps-only', where it no longer
requires unicity of package version between the request and the
installed packages. In other words, if you have `pkg.1' installed,
installing dependencies of `pkg.2' no longer removes `pkg.1'. This
also allows to install dependencies of conflicting packages when
their dependencies are compliant ([#6520])
• :firecracker: Fixed a couple of regressions which would make `opam
update' crash in some cases ([#6513], [#6527])
• :window: Improve the prebuilt Windows binaries by including Cygwin's
`setup-x86_64.exe' in the binary itself as fallback, in case
`cygwin.com' is inaccessible ([#6498], [#6538])
:open_book: You can read our [blog post] for more information, and for
even more details you can take a look at the [release note] or the
[changelog].
[#6529] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6529>
[#6532] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6532>
[#6501] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6501>
[#6535] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6535>
[#6520] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6520>
[#6513] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6513>
[#6527] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6527>
[#6498] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6498>
[#6538] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues/6538>
[blog post] <https://opam.ocaml.org/blog/opam-2-4-0-beta1/>
[release note] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/releases/tag/2.4.0-beta1>
[changelog] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/blob/2.4.0-beta1/CHANGES>
Try it!
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The upgrade instructions are unchanged:
For Unix systems
┌────
│ bash -c "sh <(curl -fsSL https://opam.ocaml.org/install.sh) --version 2.4.0~beta1"
└────
or from PowerShell for Windows systems
┌────
│ Invoke-Expression "& { $(Invoke-RestMethod https://opam.ocaml.org/install.ps1) } -Version 2.4.0~beta1"
└────
Please report any issues to the [bug-tracker].
Happy hacking, <> <> The opam team <> <> :camel:
[bug-tracker] <https://github.com/ocaml/opam/issues>
ML Family Workshop 2025: Call for Presentations
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/ml-family-workshop-2025-call-for-presentations/16521/2>
Continuing this thread, Sam announced
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Update: we've extended the deadline to July 3!
If you (or someone you know) is planning to attend ICFP/SPLASH, we
encourage you to consider submitting. The submission requirements are
small (only a couple pages), and the scope of the workshop is broad:
language design, implementation, memory management, type systems,
semantics, applications, tooling, debugging, program analysis – it's
all fair game.
This is a great opportunity to discuss works-in-progress, or demo
something you've been building. Perhaps you even have a spicy take
about language design? We have a submission category for that, and
we'd love to hear it!
Migrating OCaml.org to Use Dune (Developer Preview)
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/migrating-ocaml-org-to-use-dune-developer-preview/16859/1>
Sabine Schmaltz announced
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Hi everyone,
we're in the process of migrating OCaml.org to use Dune package
management (see <https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml.org/pull/3132>). The
intent behind this is to
1. simplify the Developer Experience when building OCaml.org (to
enable newcomers to more easily get started contributing)
2. demonstrate and ensure that Dune package management is suitable for
the production use case of running OCaml.org
I would like everyone who has contributed, or would like to contribute
to OCaml.org, to have the opportunity to try the patch and give
feedback first.
So if you're interested in helping test Dune package management on
OCaml.org, please do check out
<https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml.org/pull/3132>, and follow the
instructions in the updated docs there.
Very interested in feedback or any other related matters.
Cheers Sabine
Send us Talk and Workshop Proposals for Fun OCaml 2025 in Warsaw, September 15+16
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Archive:
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Continuing this thread, Sabine Schmaltz announced
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We're still looking for talks and workshops, please hurry up and send
us some, so that we can announce some great topics and speakers soon!
A Brief Introduction to Normalization-By-Evaluation
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/a-brief-introduction-to-normalization-by-evaluation/16869/1>
Louis Ashfield announced
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I wrote a brief introduction to the normalization-by-evaluation
algorithm in OCaml, which is the standard way to efficiently normalize
lambda calculus terms to their beta normal forms. I hope you find this
introduction helpful!
<https://gist.github.com/etiams/7fbb66a46b2a43be908ccd4015d00fb9>
My Second Outreachy Internship's Blog Post
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/my-second-outreachy-internships-blog-post/16872/1>
Matthew Idungafa announced
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Hello everyone, here's my second internship blog post. In this
article, I share the struggles and blockers I faced trying to complete
my first tasks:
<https://medium.com/@mattidungafa/outreachy-week-3-everyone-struggles-99071035aecb>
Other OCaml News
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blog].
• [They do it with mirrors, you know - that sort of thing]
• [Feature Parity Series: Improving Developer Tooling on macOS]
[the ocaml.org blog] <https://ocaml.org/blog/>
[They do it with mirrors, you know - that sort of thing]
<https://www.dra27.uk/blog/platform/2025/06/22/they-do-it-with-mirrors.html>
[Feature Parity Series: Improving Developer Tooling on macOS]
<https://tarides.com/blog/2025-06-18-feature-parity-series-improving-developer-tooling-on-macos>
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