Re: [Caml-list] Initial port of ocaml for mingw (long)

Re: [Caml-list] Initial port of ocaml for mingw (long)

[CaptnJamesKirk]

I could not get it to build completely, see the notes below. Due to the 
number of cygwin tools needed, this will probably have to be a binary 
distribution to use with mingw, not a source distribution to build with mingw.

In a message dated 9/24/2001 6:47:33 PM Central Daylight Time, 
ayerkes@gmvnetwork.com writes:
>  Assumptions:
>   (You *must* have the CAMLLIB env variable set to a dos path
>    containing your caml libraries.  You have to have libcamlrun.a
>    in this directory in order for things to work.  You may wish
>    to premake this directory and copy files as necessary)

Ok, I did this. I was able to build through libcamlrun.a (see below), and I 
copied it to the appropriate directory, but not much else worked.

>  
>  Building: 
>  
>  With the files ocaml-3.02.tar.gz, ocaml-mingw-diffs and
>  ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz in a directory, do the following:
>  (sorry for breaking the build process)
>  
>  gzip -d < ocaml-3.02.tar.gz | tar xvf -

Or just "tar zxvf ocaml-3.02.tar.gz".

gzip and tar are part of the cygwin distro. I created a separate bin 
directory, put it in my path, and copied several things from cygwin to it. 
These included cygwin1.dll (of course), make (for some reason the make that 
comes with mingw has problems), tar, gzip & gunzip, ar, awk & gawk, bash 
(renamed to sh), patch, and lots of text-utils and file-utils. The main 
cygwin bin directory was not in my path, so that only the mingw gcc, as 
(assembler), and libraries were used. I can make a complete list of the tools 
needed from cygwin, if I can get it all to work.

>  cd ocaml-3.02
>  patch -p 0 < ../ocaml-mingw-diffs
>  gzip -d < ../ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz | tar xvf -
>  make
>  : The build breaks here (access.c) ... builds ok next time

Umm, not for me. Actually the first break involved building libcamlrun.a, 
when the linker couldn't find libpdcurses.a (which isn't part of mingw). In 
fact, pdcurses isn't part of my cygwin distro either, but I copied the 
regular ncurses library file to the mingw lib directory and renamed it 
libpdcurses.a and that seemed to work. The next break was nowhere near 
access.c, and had to do with finding pervasives.cmi. I tried "make world" 
instead of just "make" and it built through pervasives.cmi but stopped at 
bytecode/emitcode.ml with the error "Unbound value opEQ".

I tried several different things, but could never get it beyond this point. 
ocamlrun.exe, libocamlrun.a and ocamlyacc.exe were built, but nothing else.

>  
>  Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction for a MinGW port.
>  In any case, it relives the user of ocaml toplevel environments
>  from having to have cygwin, in addition to allowing one to create
>  executables that are free from cygwin.
>  
>  To complete the cycle, someone who is a bit better with mingw than
>  I will have to change the compile line in bytelink.ml and asmlink.ml
>  to reflect mingw,

I don't think this part will be necessary, since the mingw compiler and 
assembler are gcc and as, just like cygwin, but I'm not completely sure.

/John
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Re: [Caml-list] Initial port of ocaml for mingw (long)

[CaptnJamesKirk]

In a message dated 9/25/2001 3:29:34 PM Central Daylight Time, 
ayerkes@gmvnetwork.com writes:

> Actually, my thought was to build with cygwin itself at least in the
>  short term.  The important thing (to me) is the ability to write nice
>  software and distribute it without the cygwin dll.  It's a bonus too
>  that ocaml.exe works properly without it too, but the main thing was
>  the ability to run ocamlopt and get an exe out that you can pass
>  around easily.  I built with cygwin's gcc (-mno-cygwin), tho.  I think
>  that it may not be realistic to build ocaml otherwise given that it
>  uses unix tools to create the prims list, however it can easily be
>  used without cygwin.
>  
>  I should've made it more clear that you need cygwin gcc as yet to build.
>  The important point was that it's possible to get it away from
>  dependence on cygwin1.dll...  

After I fired off my last message, I started to wonder if that's what you 
did, so I tried it myself under cygwin. Copying libncurses.a to libpdcurses.a 
still works (though this may need to be changed to use the regular ncurses 
which is part of the standard cygwin distro). I ran into some other problems, 
and here's what happened.

(first untarring the ocaml source, then patching, then untarring the boot 
stuff...)

1) make
First break is at utils/misc.mli, where it says cannot open pervasives.cmi. 
The only thing that worked for me here was to...
2) make world
which exits shortly with a cryptic (at least for me) error at [coldstart], 
but then
3) make
seems to be happy until it gets to bigarray. It needs bigarray.cmi but 
doesn't have it since it doesn't have big_int.cmi.  Making the 3 cmis you 
mention in otherlibs/num (int_misc.cmi, string_misc.cmi, and arith_flags.cmi) 
may be the first step, but it doesn't fix it. The only way I could build 
big_int.cmi was to cd to "otherlibs/num" and type "make big_int.cmi" there, 
after building nat.cmi as well.  Two more tries indicated that "ratio.cmi" 
and "num.cmi" also have to be built in the "otherlibs/num" directory. THEN, 
we have to cd to "otherlibs/bigarray" and do "make bigarray.cmi" there. Then,
4) make
goes all the way to ocamldebugger where it exits with "Uncaught exception: 
Not_found." I can't figure out how to fix it, so I do your next steps of "rm 
byterun/io.h", "make -C asmrun depend", and "make -C byterun depend". These 
last two have many warnings, most of which seem tied to redefinitions in 
fail.h.
5) make opt
then says I need arith_status.cmi in otherlibs/num, but once that's built it 
finishes without further error.

However, after doing "make install" and "make installopt" and trying to run 
ocaml.exe, I get "Cannot exec /usr/local/ocamlrun". In fact, all of the 
executables return that error.

And now I don't know how to fix that...

Oh, and as long as we're working on it, it would be VERY nice if we could get 
labltk to build as well.

/John



  
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Re: [Caml-list] Initial port of ocaml for mingw (long)

[art]

CaptnJamesKirk@aol.com said:

> I could not get it to build completely, see the notes below. Due to the 
> number of cygwin tools needed, this will probably have to be a binary 
> distribution to use with mingw, not a source distribution to build with 

mingw.
>

Actually, my thought was to build with cygwin itself at least in the
short term.  The important thing (to me) is the ability to write nice
software and distribute it without the cygwin dll.  It's a bonus too
that ocaml.exe works properly without it too, but the main thing was
the ability to run ocamlopt and get an exe out that you can pass
around easily.  I built with cygwin's gcc (-mno-cygwin), tho.  I think
that it may not be realistic to build ocaml otherwise given that it
uses unix tools to create the prims list, however it can easily be
used without cygwin.

I should've made it more clear that you need cygwin gcc as yet to build.
The important point was that it's possible to get it away from
dependence
on cygwin1.dll...  

> In a message dated 9/24/2001 6:47:33 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> ayerkes@gmvnetwork.com writes:
> >  Assumptions:
> >   (You *must* have the CAMLLIB env variable set to a dos path
> >    containing your caml libraries.  You have to have libcamlrun.a
> >    in this directory in order for things to work.  You may wish
> >    to premake this directory and copy files as necessary)
> 
> Ok, I did this. I was able to build through libcamlrun.a (see below), and I 
> copied it to the appropriate directory, but not much else worked.
> 

Good to know it got that far with the mingw compiler by itself.

> >  
> >  Building: 
> >  
> >  With the files ocaml-3.02.tar.gz, ocaml-mingw-diffs and
> >  ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz in a directory, do the following:
> >  (sorry for breaking the build process)
> >  
> >  gzip -d < ocaml-3.02.tar.gz | tar xvf -
> 
> Or just "tar zxvf ocaml-3.02.tar.gz".
> 
> gzip and tar are part of the cygwin distro. I created a separate bin 
> directory, put it in my path, and copied several things from cygwin to it. 
> These included cygwin1.dll (of course), make (for some reason the make that 
> comes with mingw has problems), tar, gzip & gunzip, ar, awk & gawk, bash 
> (renamed to sh), patch, and lots of text-utils and file-utils. The main 
> cygwin bin directory was not in my path, so that only the mingw gcc, as 
> (assembler), and libraries were used. I can make a complete list of the 

tools 
> needed from cygwin, if I can get it all to work.
> 

Hmm...  

>
> >  cd ocaml-3.02
> >  patch -p 0 < ../ocaml-mingw-diffs
> >  gzip -d < ../ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz | tar xvf -
> >  make
> >  : The build breaks here (access.c) ... builds ok next time
> 
> Umm, not for me. Actually the first break involved building libcamlrun.a, 
> when the linker couldn't find libpdcurses.a (which isn't part of mingw). In 
> fact, pdcurses isn't part of my cygwin distro either, but I copied the 
> regular ncurses library file to the mingw lib directory and renamed it 
> libpdcurses.a and that seemed to work. The next break was nowhere near 
> access.c, and had to do with finding pervasives.cmi. I tried "make world" 
> instead of just "make" and it built through pervasives.cmi but stopped at 
> bytecode/emitcode.ml with the error "Unbound value opEQ".
> 

Sorry, I should've mentioned that I used a small public domain curses
that
was different from the mingw one.  I meant to change that back but
didn't.
(sorry)

> I tried several different things, but could never get it beyond this point. 
> ocamlrun.exe, libocamlrun.a and ocamlyacc.exe were built, but nothing else.
> 
> >  
> >  Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction for a MinGW port.
> >  In any case, it relives the user of ocaml toplevel environments
> >  from having to have cygwin, in addition to allowing one to create
> >  executables that are free from cygwin.
> >  
> >  To complete the cycle, someone who is a bit better with mingw than
> >  I will have to change the compile line in bytelink.ml and asmlink.ml
> >  to reflect mingw,
> 
> I don't think this part will be necessary, since the mingw compiler and 
> assembler are gcc and as, just like cygwin, but I'm not completely sure.
> 

It at least needs a little I'm sure...  Even if just to get rid of the
-mno-cygwin part.  

> /John
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[Caml-list] Initial port of ocaml for mingw (long)

[art]

Using code from the cvsnt project (just one function really), I was
able to make an ocaml that does not depend on cygwin1.dll for windows.
The bad news is that currently, it still depends on gcc -mno-cygwin,
sh and make to build programs, etc.  The good news is that it can
produce programs that don't depend on cygwin1.dll as well (from ocamlc
or ocamlopt).  I have tested programs made with both ocamlc and
ocamlopt, and used objdump to verify that they only depend on the
microsoft C runtime.

File needed here:
http://lcc-java.sourceforge.net/ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz
 (New boot directory)
http://lcc-java.sourceforge.net/ocaml-mingw-diffs
 (patch file for ocaml-3.02 distribution for MinGW.

Assumptions:
 (You *must* have the CAMLLIB env variable set to a dos path
  containing your caml libraries.  You have to have libcamlrun.a
  in this directory in order for things to work.  You may wish
  to premake this directory and copy files as necessary)

Building: 

With the files ocaml-3.02.tar.gz, ocaml-mingw-diffs and
ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz in a directory, do the following:
(sorry for breaking the build process)

gzip -d < ocaml-3.02.tar.gz | tar xvf -
cd ocaml-3.02
patch -p 0 < ../ocaml-mingw-diffs
gzip -d < ../ocaml-boot-mingw.tgz | tar xvf -
make
: The build breaks here (access.c) ... builds ok next time
make
: Need some pre-built cmis... not sure why
make	otherlibs/num/int_misc.cmi \
	otherlibs/num/string_misc.cmi \
	otherlibs/num/arith_flags.cmi
make
: Everything except ocamlopt.exe and family made so far
rm byterun/io.h
make -C asmrun depend
make -C byterun depend
: byterun/io.h is replaced by byterun/_io.h due to a name conflict.
make opt
: Everything made
make install 
make installopt
: Installed

Hopefully, this is a step in the right direction for a MinGW port.
In any case, it relives the user of ocaml toplevel environments
from having to have cygwin, in addition to allowing one to create
executables that are free from cygwin.

To complete the cycle, someone who is a bit better with mingw than
I will have to change the compile line in bytelink.ml and asmlink.ml
to reflect mingw, and do new makefiles (perhaps Dmitry will help with
this?)

Art
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