* [Caml-list] Proposal for extensible open datatypes
@ 2012-01-06 0:32 Leo P White
2012-01-06 6:26 ` Andrej Bauer
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From: Leo P White @ 2012-01-06 0:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml
Hi all,
I have made a small extension to OCaml to allow open datatypes (like exn)
to be created by the programmer. A patch and more details are available at
http://sites.google.com/site/ocamlopen/.
The basic syntax is:
open type foo
open type 'a bar
extend foo with Foo1 of int
extend foo with Foo2 of string
extend 'a bar with Bar of int * 'a
Open GADTs can also be created (with two possible syntaxes):
open type 'a gadt
extend 'a gadt with A : int -> int gadt
extend string gadt with B of string
Although open types are in some ways similar to polymorphic variants, they
are more similar to ordinary variants:
* Constructors for open types can be used anywhere that an ordinary
variant
constructor can be used.
* Constructors for open types have a single type, which can make them
less
prone to errors than polymorphic variants
* Constructors for open types are associated with modules, so they can
be
hidden by signatures.
* Open types can be Generalized Abstract Data Types
My original motivation for this was wanting to allow arbitrary data to be
attached onto various points of a very large data structure (an AST). This
can be done using local exceptions, but I wanted these values to have their
own type. I think it might also be useful, when using GADTs to represent
types, to allow these representations to be extended for user defined
types.
Regards,
Leo
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* Re: [Caml-list] Proposal for extensible open datatypes
2012-01-06 0:32 [Caml-list] Proposal for extensible open datatypes Leo P White
@ 2012-01-06 6:26 ` Andrej Bauer
2012-01-06 8:56 ` Andreas Rossberg
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From: Andrej Bauer @ 2012-01-06 6:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml
I would be interested to hear what propeties of Ocaml you had to give
up to get this interesting extension working? For example, what
happens with checking for exhaustivness of match? Caml performs
various optimizations in pattern matching, why are those still ok now
that new alternatives may appear later?
With kind regards,
Andrej
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* Re: [Caml-list] Proposal for extensible open datatypes
2012-01-06 6:26 ` Andrej Bauer
@ 2012-01-06 8:56 ` Andreas Rossberg
2012-01-06 9:24 ` Leo P White
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From: Andreas Rossberg @ 2012-01-06 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrej Bauer; +Cc: caml
On Jan 6, 2012, at 07.26 h, Andrej Bauer wrote:
> I would be interested to hear what propeties of Ocaml you had to give
> up to get this interesting extension working? For example, what
> happens with checking for exhaustivness of match? Caml performs
> various optimizations in pattern matching, why are those still ok now
> that new alternatives may appear later?
One such type is already in ML, for historical reasons it happens to
be named exn. Consequently, you don't really give up anything, your
questions already apply to the exception type. Exhaustiveness simply
requires a catch-all in all pattern matches over this type. More
difficult is irredundancy, because constructors can be aliased without
the type system tracking that (and it cannot across module
boundaries). You have to give up there.
Generalising exn this way is an old idea, e.g. we implemented it in
Alice ML. The standard reply to requesting such an extension is that
it's not really needed, because you can already do everything using
exn (though without custom type distinctions, and minus GADTs in OCaml).
/Andreas
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* Re: [Caml-list] Proposal for extensible open datatypes
2012-01-06 8:56 ` Andreas Rossberg
@ 2012-01-06 9:24 ` Leo P White
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From: Leo P White @ 2012-01-06 9:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Rossberg; +Cc: Andrej Bauer, caml
On Jan 6 2012, Andreas Rossberg wrote:
>On Jan 6, 2012, at 07.26 h, Andrej Bauer wrote:
>> I would be interested to hear what propeties of Ocaml you had to give
>> up to get this interesting extension working? For example, what
>> happens with checking for exhaustivness of match? Caml performs
>> various optimizations in pattern matching, why are those still ok now
>> that new alternatives may appear later?
>
>One such type is already in ML, for historical reasons it happens to
>be named exn. Consequently, you don't really give up anything, your
>questions already apply to the exception type. Exhaustiveness simply
>requires a catch-all in all pattern matches over this type. More
>difficult is irredundancy, because constructors can be aliased without
>the type system tracking that (and it cannot across module
>boundaries). You have to give up there.
>
>Generalising exn this way is an old idea, e.g. we implemented it in
>Alice ML. The standard reply to requesting such an extension is that
>it's not really needed, because you can already do everything using
>exn (though without custom type distinctions, and minus GADTs in OCaml).
Yes, it uses the same same pattern matching as exn. This means that a
catch-all pattern is required for exhaustiveness, and if-then-elses are
used instead of jump tables.
The problem would become a bit more interesting if ordinary variant types
could also be made open, thus allowing types to have both ordinary
constructors and extensions, but the patch doesn't support that yet.
Leo
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