From: Vitaly Lugovsky <vsl@ontil.ihep.su>
To: Martin Berger <martinb@dcs.qmul.ac.uk>
Cc: The Trade <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:42:36 +0300 (MSK) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58L.0401291840190.4125@ontil.ihep.su> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4018E282.2040404@dcs.qmul.ac.uk>
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Martin Berger wrote:
> > You may want to try my mpassing library, which now lacks the
> > sequental orthodox unixish message queue, but it would be easy to
> > implement (going to do it soon). I'm using it heavily in a
> > distributed calculations as well as in a massive agent models and
> > as a simple way to program "components", and I'm quite happy I
> > don't ever met in OCaml any of the most common concurrncy bugs
> > I enjoyed with Java and C++.
>
> i wonder why. ocaml essentially offers the same approaches to
> concurrency as do the relevant java or C/C++ libraries. as far
> as i can see, there's nothing in Ocaml's approach to shared
> memory concurrency that would prevent deadlocks or lack of
> mutual exclusion,
Nothing? Did you forget about the possibility to code without
side effects?
> and there's nothing that prevents the usual
> problems with message passing, like lack of liveness. you do
> have more expressive types in Ocaml, but that is orthogonal to
> concurrency.
Right. But it's much easier to implement a quite stable
environment for message passing, which will remain stable until
you're following some quite simple rules.
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2004-01-27 6:32 [Caml-list] ocaml killer Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 8:56 ` Alex Baretta
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2004-01-27 18:32 ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-28 4:38 ` skaller
2004-01-28 5:30 ` james woodyatt
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2004-01-27 19:10 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-28 13:29 ` David Fox
2004-01-28 15:12 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-27 9:41 ` Alexander Danilov
2004-01-27 9:57 ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 16:43 ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-27 18:19 ` David Fox
2004-01-27 18:47 ` Richard Jones
2004-01-27 19:29 ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-28 13:30 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-28 23:26 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-28 23:47 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 0:00 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29 0:04 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29 0:11 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 0:34 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29 0:47 ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer' Matt Gushee
2004-01-29 8:52 ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 16:20 ` fancy types (was Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer) William Lovas
2004-01-29 17:13 ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:26 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2004-01-29 17:17 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 17:41 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 19:18 ` William Lovas
2004-01-30 10:36 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-31 3:39 ` William Lovas
2004-02-01 2:11 ` Vasile Rotaru
2004-02-02 11:08 ` Florian Hars
2004-01-29 18:33 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 17:53 ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer skaller
2004-01-29 5:20 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-29 6:36 ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-29 8:53 ` [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency james woodyatt
2004-01-29 9:46 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 10:37 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 11:51 ` Michael Hicks
2004-01-29 12:20 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 12:43 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 15:42 ` Vitaly Lugovsky [this message]
2004-01-29 16:11 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 16:56 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 17:19 ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:43 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 17:54 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 18:08 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30 0:19 ` Lauri Alanko
2004-01-29 19:37 ` skaller
2004-01-30 0:05 ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30 6:52 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 8:53 ` Issac Trotts
2004-01-30 20:45 ` skaller
2004-01-31 6:29 ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 20:12 ` skaller
2004-01-29 18:35 ` skaller
2004-01-29 9:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 18:26 ` skaller
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