From: brogoff <brogoff@speakeasy.net>
To: Caml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0410110935200.20927@shell2.speakeasy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00F89380-1BA2-11D9-B4CE-000A958FF2FE@wetware.com>
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, james woodyatt wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2004, at 06:38, Christophe Raffalli wrote:
> > Jean-Christophe Filliatre wrote [quite sensibly]:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> This shouldn't be advised, and not even posted on this list.
> >
> > And how do you write a tail recursive map doing only one structure
> > traversal (which is important with the penalty for memory access) on
> > immutable list without the Obj module ?
>
> By using a more appropriate data structure, e.g. a lazy list. It's a
> pay-me-now-or-pay-me-later sort of game you're playing here.
Count me among those entirely unswayed by this.
You could also respectfully request that the implementors provide a safe
way to get this well known optimization WITHOUT having to resort to Obj
usage, and, until it is provided, use the safe solution provided a few times
already (and used in ExtLib I believe).
When I asked one of the implementors about this, I received the response that
this would be nice to have but not at the head of the queue in terms of
upcoming desireable features. That seems like a reasonable response, considering
that there are a number of not so bad workarounds, including use of Obj. I'd
rather have GCaml extensions sooner anyways...
I think Clean now provides some solution for the tail recursion modulo cons
stuff. Anyone know other language/implementations which do?
-- Brian
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-08 13:20 [Caml-list] Recursive lists Luca Pascali
2004-10-08 13:31 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 14:32 ` skaller
2004-10-08 14:42 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 15:43 ` David Brown
2004-10-08 17:19 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 23:29 ` skaller
2004-10-09 8:35 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-09 9:07 ` skaller
2004-10-09 8:32 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 17:18 ` Wolfgang Lux
2004-10-11 0:44 ` Brian Hurt
2004-10-11 6:32 ` William Lovas
2004-10-11 6:52 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-10-13 11:29 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-13 11:22 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11 9:04 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 14:05 ` Sébastien Furic
2004-10-08 14:44 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 15:09 ` Jon Harrop
2004-10-08 15:13 ` james woodyatt
2004-10-08 14:26 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-10-08 18:28 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11 8:01 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-10-11 9:20 ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-10-11 13:38 ` [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists) Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-11 13:49 ` [Caml-list] " Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-11 15:33 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2004-10-11 16:09 ` Richard Jones
2004-10-11 16:40 ` [Caml-list] About Obj Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-10-13 11:59 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11 16:24 ` [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists) james woodyatt
2004-10-11 16:46 ` brogoff [this message]
2004-10-11 17:24 ` james woodyatt
2004-10-12 0:19 ` skaller
2004-10-20 22:10 ` Greg K
2004-10-12 15:19 ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-13 11:42 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-13 21:19 ` brogoff
2004-10-14 9:52 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-10-14 17:38 ` brogoff
2004-10-15 8:22 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-15 17:02 ` brogoff
2004-10-17 13:42 ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-12 6:17 ` [Caml-list] Recursive lists sejourne_kevin
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