From: John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Executable size?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:44:48 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311122317440.3046@alice> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FB2B050.8050901@atcorp.com>
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Eric Dahlman wrote:
> John J Lee wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Brian Hurt wrote:
> >>Currying, exceptions, etc. also have small size penalties.
> > OK. I'm now enlightened on that point -- clearly, O'Caml's runtime is an
> > absolute requirement for an O'Caml program (unlike C/C++).
>
> C and C++ are not special in this regard, they just happen to be shipped
> with the operating system. On my box hello world links against libc.so
> and ld.so which are 1,531,964 and 103,044 bytes respectively.
[...]
I don't understand what this has to do with what I said in the quote.
Yes, C runtime is present on essentially all systems, but the point is
that C and O'Caml are fundamentally different: with C, you can *ignore*
that runtime, and write a program that simply doesn't use it at all. Not
so with O'Caml (for perfectly good and sensible reasons).
> One way to even things up is require the C version to link to all of its
[...]
Also, I'm simply looking for a way to distribute code, not trying to start
a pissing contest between C and O'Caml :-) so I'm not interested in
"evening things up".
> Really what you need to do is lobby Microsoft and Apple to include ocaml
> as part of the base system install and then things might even out ;-)
Well, I guess they already have, in the sense that O'Caml has a .NET
implementation -- right? Always assuming that implementation is more than
the publicity stunt that the Python one was, of course...
John
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-12 16:14 John J Lee
2003-11-12 17:33 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 18:06 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:31 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:50 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 9:10 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-13 13:46 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 14:28 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:21 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 22:53 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 23:50 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 12:48 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:25 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:06 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 18:38 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 19:04 ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-12 21:29 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:03 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-13 4:14 ` Kamil Shakirov
2003-11-13 9:06 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-13 9:18 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:46 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:40 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:10 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2003-11-12 20:35 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 21:51 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 21:35 ` David Brown
2003-11-12 22:12 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:32 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 22:53 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:35 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 23:44 ` John J Lee [this message]
2003-11-13 0:26 ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-13 1:29 ` [Caml-list] F-sharp (was: Executable size?) Oleg Trott
2003-11-14 6:04 ` [Caml-list] float_of_num Christophe Raffalli
2003-11-13 15:43 ` [Caml-list] Executable size? Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 19:58 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 20:36 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 22:16 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 13:41 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:13 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 18:07 ` skaller
2003-11-15 13:36 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:01 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 17:53 ` skaller
2003-11-13 13:37 ` Florian Hars
2003-11-12 18:05 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:36 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:04 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 20:17 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:01 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2003-11-13 1:23 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-15 12:09 ` skaller
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