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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: Jon Harrop <jon@jdh30.plus.com>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] C++ STL and template features compared with OCaml parametric polymorphism and OO features
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:04:39 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0409270858120.5809-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409271411.30384.jon@jdh30.plus.com>

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Jon Harrop wrote:

> I think we are, because I think iterators are only really useful in an 
> imperative setting. Hence C++ programmers use them extensively but OCaml 
> programmers do not. Folds are simply not feasible in C++. I'm sure Stepanov 
> would have reinvented them if they had been... ;-)

Two comments:

First, iterators are usefull in a functional setting, for two reasons.  
The first is they allow lazy application of transformations.  It's easy to 
define a map on an interator to do the transforms as the values get pulled 
out.  And second, they provide a generic way to plug data structures 
together.  All you need to write is a to_iterator and from_iterator for 
each data structure, and then all data structures can talk to each other.

Second, you can do fold, map, iter, etc. in C++- it's just a pain.  To 
emulate HOFs you define a new class with single virtual member function.  
The virtual member function then becomes your HOF.  Of course, 1 line of 
Ocaml code has just become a dozen lines of C++, but that doesn't mean it 
can't be done...

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Brian

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-27 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-25 21:12 Vasili Galchin
2004-09-25 21:38 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-09-25 22:15   ` Vasili Galchin
2004-09-25 22:52     ` Vasili Galchin
2004-09-26  1:34       ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26  5:31         ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-26  9:47           ` sejourne_kevin
2004-09-26 13:05           ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 14:36             ` skaller
2004-09-26 15:08               ` sejourne_kevin
2004-09-26 15:27                 ` skaller
2004-09-26 18:51               ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 20:14                 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27  1:59                   ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-27  4:48                     ` skaller
2004-09-27  9:40                       ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-09-27 10:50                     ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 12:14                       ` skaller
2004-09-27 13:11                       ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-27 13:31                         ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 16:54                           ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-29 18:59                             ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 13:32                         ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 14:04                         ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2004-09-27 14:58                           ` skaller
2004-09-27 15:30                             ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-27 16:38                               ` skaller
2004-09-27 17:01                                 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-28  1:21                                   ` skaller
2004-09-27 16:41                           ` brogoff
2004-09-28  0:26                             ` skaller
2004-09-29 15:32                         ` Florian Hars
2004-09-29 16:49                           ` [Caml-list] Factoring HOFs [was Re: C++ STL...] Jon Harrop
2004-09-30  9:19                             ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-30 10:13                             ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-09-30 10:31                               ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-09-30 13:21                               ` skaller
2004-09-30 23:17                               ` [Caml-list] Factoring HOFs Jacques Garrigue
2004-10-01  8:46                                 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-01 17:35                                 ` brogoff
2004-09-26 20:43                 ` [Caml-list] C++ STL and template features compared with OCaml parametric polymorphism and OO features skaller
2004-09-26 14:19           ` skaller

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