From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: Jon Harrop <jon@jdh30.plus.com>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] C++ STL and template features compared with OCaml parametric polymorphism and OO features
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:04:39 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0409270858120.5809-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409271411.30384.jon@jdh30.plus.com>
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Jon Harrop wrote:
> I think we are, because I think iterators are only really useful in an
> imperative setting. Hence C++ programmers use them extensively but OCaml
> programmers do not. Folds are simply not feasible in C++. I'm sure Stepanov
> would have reinvented them if they had been... ;-)
Two comments:
First, iterators are usefull in a functional setting, for two reasons.
The first is they allow lazy application of transformations. It's easy to
define a map on an interator to do the transforms as the values get pulled
out. And second, they provide a generic way to plug data structures
together. All you need to write is a to_iterator and from_iterator for
each data structure, and then all data structures can talk to each other.
Second, you can do fold, map, iter, etc. in C++- it's just a pain. To
emulate HOFs you define a new class with single virtual member function.
The virtual member function then becomes your HOF. Of course, 1 line of
Ocaml code has just become a dozen lines of C++, but that doesn't mean it
can't be done...
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Brian
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-25 21:12 Vasili Galchin
2004-09-25 21:38 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-09-25 22:15 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-09-25 22:52 ` Vasili Galchin
2004-09-26 1:34 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 5:31 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-26 9:47 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-09-26 13:05 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 14:36 ` skaller
2004-09-26 15:08 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-09-26 15:27 ` skaller
2004-09-26 18:51 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-26 20:14 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 1:59 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-27 4:48 ` skaller
2004-09-27 9:40 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-09-27 10:50 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 12:14 ` skaller
2004-09-27 13:11 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-27 13:31 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 16:54 ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-29 18:59 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 13:32 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-27 14:04 ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2004-09-27 14:58 ` skaller
2004-09-27 15:30 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-27 16:38 ` skaller
2004-09-27 17:01 ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-28 1:21 ` skaller
2004-09-27 16:41 ` brogoff
2004-09-28 0:26 ` skaller
2004-09-29 15:32 ` Florian Hars
2004-09-29 16:49 ` [Caml-list] Factoring HOFs [was Re: C++ STL...] Jon Harrop
2004-09-30 9:19 ` Radu Grigore
2004-09-30 10:13 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-09-30 10:31 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-09-30 13:21 ` skaller
2004-09-30 23:17 ` [Caml-list] Factoring HOFs Jacques Garrigue
2004-10-01 8:46 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-01 17:35 ` brogoff
2004-09-26 20:43 ` [Caml-list] C++ STL and template features compared with OCaml parametric polymorphism and OO features skaller
2004-09-26 14:19 ` skaller
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