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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: Andreas Rossberg <rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Does Caml have slow arithmetics ?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:00:09 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0407080952090.4202-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40ED190E.3080005@ps.uni-sb.de>

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Andreas Rossberg wrote:

> David Brown wrote:
> > 
> > In some functional languages (Scheme, specifically), tail recursion is
> > required to be implemented iteratively.  It is a common enough idiom,
> > and easy enough to implement, that it is generally done in functional
> > languages.  In fact, gcc does it in C, with enough optimization.
> 
> The latter is, to a certain extent, a myth.
> 
> First, you have to distinguish between simple tail *recursion*, and the 
> much more general concept of tail *call*. I believe Scheme requires to 
> fully optimize the latter, and so it is done by all decent FPL 
> implementations. GCC does not do that, already falling short of mutually 
> recursive functions, IIRC.

GCC has started optimizing tail calls in 3.x.  

I compiled:

int fib(int a, int b, int n) {
    if (n <= 1) {
        return b;
    } else {
        return fib(b, a+b, n-1);
    }
}

with gcc 3.2.2 -O2, and got:

.globl fib
        .type   fib,@function
fib:
        pushl   %ebp
        movl    %esp, %ebp
        movl    12(%ebp), %ecx
        pushl   %ebx
        movl    16(%ebp), %edx
        movl    8(%ebp), %ebx
        .p2align 2,,3
.L4:
        cmpl    $1, %edx
        jle     .L5
        leal    (%ecx,%ebx), %eax
        decl    %edx
        movl    %ecx, %ebx
        movl    %eax, %ecx
        jmp     .L4
.L5:
        movl    %ecx, %eax
        popl    %ebx
        leave
        ret

Notice that it's turned the tail call recursion into a loop.  I don't 
recall it doing this back in 2.95 or 2.96, so it's a pretty recent 
improvement, but it does now exist.

What it's limits are, I haven't determined, but it does exist.

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Brian

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-08 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-07  6:45 Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-07-07  8:14 ` Richard Jones
2004-07-07  9:13 ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-07 12:32   ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-07-07 13:00     ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-07 15:09       ` Olivier Pérès
2004-07-07 17:06         ` David Brown
2004-07-07 17:43           ` Olivier Pérès
2004-07-08  3:40             ` David Brown
2004-07-08 11:06               ` Olivier Pérès
2004-07-07 13:06     ` Richard Jones
2004-07-07 13:22     ` David Haguenauer
2004-07-07 15:48     ` Brian Hurt
2004-07-07 13:57   ` Evgeny Chukreev
2004-07-07 14:58     ` Xavier Leroy
2004-07-07 15:48       ` Evgeny Chukreev
2004-07-07 19:16       ` skaller
2004-07-08  3:44         ` David Brown
2004-07-08  5:50           ` skaller
2004-07-08  9:51           ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-07-08 12:03             ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-07-08 14:04             ` David Brown
2004-07-08 14:36               ` Luc Maranget
2004-07-08 15:11                 ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-08 15:49                   ` Luc Maranget
2004-07-09 14:06                     ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-09 16:20                       ` Markus Mottl
     [not found]                     ` <Luc.Maranget@inria.fr>
2004-07-09 17:54                       ` Norman Ramsey
2004-07-12  8:08                         ` Luc Maranget
2004-07-08 15:51                   ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-08 18:27                     ` skaller
2004-07-08 21:14                     ` [Caml-list] tail recursion and register poor Intel architecture Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-08 21:35                       ` Brian Hurt
2004-07-08 23:01                         ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-09  4:36                           ` Brian Hurt
2004-07-09  6:53                           ` Florian Hars
2004-07-09 14:44                             ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-09  6:55                           ` skaller
2004-07-09 14:45                             ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-09 16:09                               ` skaller
2004-07-10  9:19                                 ` [Caml-list] embedded OCaml Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-11 23:11                                   ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-12  7:39                                     ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-12 14:04                                       ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-12 18:48                                         ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-12 23:22                                           ` Richard Jones
2004-07-13  6:39                                             ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-13  8:47                                               ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-13  8:58                                                 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-07-13  9:47                                                   ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-13  9:18                                                 ` Damien Doligez
2004-07-13  9:56                                                   ` [Caml-list] OCaml as business model Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-13  9:59                                                     ` Richard Jones
2004-07-13 10:50                                                       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-13 11:20                                                     ` Damien Doligez
2004-07-13 12:01                                                       ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-07-14  8:05                                                 ` [Caml-list] embedded OCaml I R T
2004-07-12 10:25                                     ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-07-13  7:06                                       ` Alex Baretta
2004-07-08 17:12                 ` Tail calls (Was Re: [Caml-list] Does Caml have slow arithmetics ?) brogoff
2004-07-08 17:23                   ` Richard Jones
2004-07-12 17:07                   ` Xavier Leroy
2004-07-12 21:13                     ` skaller
2004-07-13  7:20                       ` Xavier Leroy
2004-07-08 15:00             ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2004-07-08 13:30         ` [Caml-list] Does Caml have slow arithmetics ? Alex Baretta
2004-07-07 21:26       ` Jon Harrop
2004-07-08  5:05         ` Jacques GARRIGUE

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