From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: Nuutti Kotivuori <naked+caml@naked.iki.fi>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Object-oriented access bottleneck
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:30:45 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0312071318110.5009-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87n0a4cx6e.fsf@naked.iki.fi>
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Nuutti Kotivuori wrote:
> Well sure, that will help and is a good idea in general. But it will
> never allow for inlining of the function body into the calling
> function, and as such will never solve the underlying problem.
I actually question the value of inlining as a performance improvement,
unless it leads to other signifigant optimizations. Function calls simply
aren't that expensive anymore, on today's OOO super-scalar
speculative-execution CPUs. A direct call, i.e. one not through a
function pointer, I benchmarked out at about 1.5 clocks on an AMD K6-3.
Probably less on a more advanced CPU. Indirect calls, i.e. through a
function pointer, are slower only due to the load to use penalty. If the
pointer is in L1 cache, an indirect call is probably only 3-8 clocks.
Cache misses are the big cost. Hitting L1 cache, the cheapest memory
access, is generally 2-4 clocks. L2 cache is generally 6-30 clocks.
Missing cache entirely and having to go to main memory is 100-300+ clocks.
Inlining expands the code size, and thus means you're likely having more
expensive cache misses. At 300 clocks/cache miss, it doesn't take all
that many cache misses to totally overwhealm the small advantages gained
by inlining functions.
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-07 2:39 Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-07 2:59 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-12-07 11:22 ` Benjamin Geer
2003-12-07 14:12 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-12-07 18:04 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-07 10:27 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-12-07 19:46 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 1:07 ` Jacques Garrigue
2003-12-08 15:08 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 15:42 ` Richard Jones
2003-12-09 0:26 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-12-09 12:10 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-09 13:17 ` Olivier Andrieu
2003-12-09 13:53 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 17:51 ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 18:19 ` brogoff
2003-12-08 20:09 ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 19:02 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-12-08 21:37 ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 21:06 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 22:30 ` malc
2003-12-07 18:23 ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-07 18:14 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-07 19:30 ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2003-12-07 23:50 ` Abdulaziz Ghuloum
2003-12-08 17:29 ` Brian Hurt
2003-12-08 18:48 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 10:17 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2003-12-08 19:51 ` skaller
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