From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Executable size?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:51:54 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0311121547090.5009-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311122020240.2865@alice>
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, John J Lee wrote:
> > In addition to a more complicated and complete standard library and
> > bultins, Ocaml also has garbage collection, which is non-trivial to
> > implement. I wouldn't be surprised if half or more of that 100K of
> > overhead is just the GC.
>
> Ah, of course!
>
Actually, about a third of it seems to be debugging information, which
goes away with strip.
> > I was using it in the most literal sense- using code more than once, in
> > more than one way. In general, it's much better to have only one copy of
> > a function, used in two places, than two copies of the function. The
> [...]
>
> Got you. The template explosion problem in C++, eg.
>
I've been trying hard not to badmouth C++ here :-).
>
> > I was thinking of special cases where the difference of a 100K or 1M or so
> > is the difference between working and not working. If you are, for
> > example, trying to fit your program on a 512K ROM, Ocaml's overhead might
> > be a problem.
>
> Or if people are willing to download 100k but not 1M.
>
It would be an exceeding large program- or a delibertly perverse one-
which managed to use *all* the libraries Ocaml provides.
And speaking as someone who still gets onto the internet via a 56K baud
modem, download a megabyte isn't that bad. I routinely get 5K/second on
downloads, so a megabyte is ~3.5 minutes. It's a bathroom break, sure,
but not unreasonable.
--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
- Gene Spafford
Brian
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-12 16:14 John J Lee
2003-11-12 17:33 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 18:06 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:31 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:50 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 9:10 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-13 13:46 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 14:28 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:21 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 22:53 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 23:50 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 12:48 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:25 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:06 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 18:38 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 19:04 ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-12 21:29 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:03 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-13 4:14 ` Kamil Shakirov
2003-11-13 9:06 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-13 9:18 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:46 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:40 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:10 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2003-11-12 20:35 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 21:51 ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2003-11-12 21:35 ` David Brown
2003-11-12 22:12 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:32 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 22:53 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:35 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 23:44 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 0:26 ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-13 1:29 ` [Caml-list] F-sharp (was: Executable size?) Oleg Trott
2003-11-14 6:04 ` [Caml-list] float_of_num Christophe Raffalli
2003-11-13 15:43 ` [Caml-list] Executable size? Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 19:58 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 20:36 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 22:16 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 13:41 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:13 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 18:07 ` skaller
2003-11-15 13:36 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:01 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 17:53 ` skaller
2003-11-13 13:37 ` Florian Hars
2003-11-12 18:05 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:36 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:04 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 20:17 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:01 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2003-11-13 1:23 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-15 12:09 ` skaller
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