From: Mark Wotton <mrak@cs.usyd.edu.au>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [Q]: Co(ntra)variance and subtyping?
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:18:22 +1100 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0111180112020.27799-100000@hons.cs.usyd.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011116203745.A59514@qiao.in-berlin.de>
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Clemens Hintze wrote:
> Two things I would like to ask you right now:
>
> - What does subtyping exactly mean in OCaml resp. functional
> programming?
> - What means covariance and contravariance of types and subtypes?
Not being an Ocaml guru, I shan't attempt the first question.
The second's pretty easy, though: covariance is the sane way of doing OO,
and contravariance is bizarre. (Right, if there's any Eiffel devotees on
here, I've just started a flamewar. :)
Seriously: contravariance breaks the assumption that a subtype is capable
of everything that its parent can do. Essentially, it allows you to narrow
arguments to functions: to use some weird eiffelish pseudocode i had
lying around, you can do this.
class bar
class bar_child is bar
class garment public foo(b: bar )
class toga is garment public foo(b: bar_child)
/* narrowing the argument of foo */
class tester public main = let p:garment = toga{} in p.foo(bar{})
/* attempting to call foo method of toga object using object of type bar:
fails at runtime */
Basically, you expect to be able to call "foo" on any garment, and the
only requirement is that the argument be of type "bar". "toga" narrows it
to "bar_child" and the whole thing falls down in a heap.
Covariance doesn't let this happen. You can actually widen the type in a
child class, I believe: this isn't generally particularly useful, though.
> Regards,
> Clemens.
>
> PS: Sorry, if my english is not flawless, but it is not my
> mother-tongue, and I do not speak french a bit, unfortunately.
It's an odd thing: most of the posts with apologies for bad English I've
seen on Usenet have been flawless as far as composition goes.
mrak
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-16 19:37 Clemens Hintze
2001-11-17 14:18 ` Mark Wotton [this message]
2001-11-17 14:55 ` Mark Wotton
2001-11-17 17:50 ` [Caml-list] " Clemens Hintze
2001-11-17 23:17 ` Mark Wotton
2001-11-18 9:16 ` Clemens Hintze
2001-11-18 13:18 ` Alain Frisch
2001-11-19 9:54 ` Remi VANICAT
[not found] ` <9t7v4d$gij$1@qrnik.zagroda>
2001-11-18 11:57 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2001-11-18 13:34 ` [Caml-list] " Andreas Rossberg
2001-11-18 21:22 ` Pixel
2001-11-19 0:33 ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-11-18 22:35 ` David Gurr
2001-11-19 7:24 ` [Caml-list] " Clemens Hintze
2001-11-19 12:03 ` Markus Mottl
2001-11-19 8:29 ` [Caml-list] " Xavier Leroy
2001-11-19 11:03 ` Alain Frisch
2001-11-20 9:58 ` Didier Remy
2001-11-19 11:14 ` Pixel
2001-11-18 22:30 ` [Caml-list] Re: variance, subtyping and monads... oh, my! james woodyatt
2001-11-19 8:11 ` Francois Pottier
2001-11-19 9:02 ` james woodyatt
2001-11-19 9:58 ` Markus Mottl
2001-11-19 20:47 ` james woodyatt
2001-11-19 12:56 ` Frank Atanassow
2001-11-19 10:39 ` Andreas Rossberg
2001-11-19 12:21 ` Markus Mottl
2001-11-19 13:43 ` [Caml-list] Kylix and OCaml Christophe Raffalli
2001-11-20 2:05 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2001-11-20 8:51 ` Christophe Raffalli
2001-11-22 1:42 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2001-11-20 10:00 ` Benjamin Monate
2001-11-20 10:24 ` [Caml-list] [Bug in an interface between C++ and OCAML due to some pointer encapsulation] Sylvain Kerjean
2001-11-20 12:14 ` [Caml-list] Kylix and OCaml Maxence Guesdon
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