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From: Patrick M Doane <patrick@watson.org>
To: John Max Skaller <skaller@ozemail.com.au>
Cc: Jun Furuse <Jun.Furuse@inria.fr>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: "Re: [Caml-list] A G'Caml question" + additional info
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:18:04 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1010629000500.35684B-100000@fledge.watson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B3BB6EC.3DEB6CBF@ozemail.com.au>

On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, John Max Skaller wrote:

> Patrick M Doane wrote:
> 
> > >   We do not want to introduce the full open recursion to generic
> > > values. You could add new type cases easily using the open recursion
> > > and it should be helpful in some cases. But it can also introduce
> > > heavy semantic confusion to our programs, since in the open recursion
> > > the semantics of generic values could not be fixed until all modules
> > > are linked together.
> > 
> > I agree that this could make programs more difficult to follow, but I
> > think it is to be expected with generic programming these days.
> 
> 	Yes, its expected: which is very good reason NOT to do it.
> Its expected that all the problems associated with it have to exist,
> because people haven't seen anything better.

I would like to apply the generic programming techniques so that I can
have reusable algorithms.  The extensions provided by GCaml don't achieve
that goal although they are much more powerful than basic operator
overloading. 

If I want to define a generic function similar to the STL for_each
function, this works fine until I need to extend the system with new
iterator types.  The proposed 'include' feature makes it much easier to
extend generic values, but doesn't help with derived generics. I would
assume that most folks are interested in the reusability of those derived
generics.  Does it make sense to provide a similar construct to 'include'
for derived generics which would re-analyze the body of the code based on
a new context of generic values?  Or am I trying to abuse what these
features are intended for? Maybe this kind of approach is better suited to
the object system or using functors.

Patrick

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       reply	other threads:[~2001-06-29  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3B3BB6EC.3DEB6CBF@ozemail.com.au>
2001-06-29  4:18 ` Patrick M Doane [this message]
2001-07-16 18:24 John R Harrison
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-11 14:30 Krishnaswami, Neel
2001-07-11 16:22 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-11 16:35   ` Bruce Hoult
2001-07-11 19:12     ` Markus Mottl
2001-07-12  3:15   ` Patrick M Doane
2001-07-10 18:21 Krishnaswami, Neel
2001-07-11  6:09 ` Sven
     [not found] <3B3D503C.E91DDE34@ozemail.com.au>
2001-06-30 16:01 ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-30 20:59   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-01  5:32     ` Patrick M Doane
2001-07-02 15:55       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-10 18:08         ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-20  3:16 [Caml-list] A G'Caml question Brian Rogoff
2001-06-25 17:11 ` "Re: [Caml-list] A G'Caml question" + additional info Jun Furuse
2001-06-28  2:21   ` Patrick M Doane
2001-06-28  4:40     ` Brian Rogoff

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