From: "Brandon J. Van Every" <vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>
To: "caml-list" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] recompiling bytecode
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:21:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <OOEALCJCKEBJBIJHCNJDIEPPHAAB.vanevery@indiegamedesign.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1081945187.20677.710.camel@pelican>
skaller wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 17:50, Nicolas Cannasse wrote:
>
> > Other way of thinking is : what do we need in order to get
> > binary-only
> > distributions ? OCaml have a bytecode interpreter, so why
> > we can't release
> > libraries simply as a big CMA ( and some CMI's ). Answer :
> > because the
> > bytecode binary format is very strict, and not suited for
> > this kind of usage
> > (adding a function in the interface of a sub library needs
> > to recompile all
> > top librairies ). > [re: having to recompile everything]
>
> Who cares?
>
> I've worked on code where turnaround for compilations were:
>
> 1970's -- overnight (Fortran)
> 1980's -- 2-3 hours (Cobol/Pl1)
> 1990's -- 20-40 minutes (C/C++)
> 2000's -- 10-60 seconds (Ocaml)
Because you are not compiling programs large enough and often enough for
this to become sheer hell? I've read many a postmortem in GameDeveloper
magazine where excessive compile times are a major drain on
productivity. Anecdotally, I've met too many happy Python programmers
to poo pooh the evasion of compile time.
Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com
Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA
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2004-04-07 18:47 [Caml-list] Dynamically evaluating OCaml code John Goerzen
2004-04-07 20:37 ` Samuel Mimram
2004-04-07 21:05 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2002-01-04 0:43 ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-08 0:58 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-08 6:24 ` Brian Hurt
2004-04-08 7:47 ` Oleg Trott
2004-04-08 8:04 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-04-08 7:52 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-04-08 8:15 ` Dustin Sallings
2004-04-08 13:37 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 14:56 ` Markus Mottl
2004-04-08 15:14 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-08 15:26 ` Markus Mottl
2004-04-08 15:39 ` Jon Harrop
2004-04-08 15:58 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 17:59 ` Jean-Marc EBER
2004-04-08 18:20 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-08 18:39 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 19:21 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-08 18:29 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-13 6:15 ` Trevor Andrade
2004-04-13 11:17 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-13 13:16 ` skaller
2004-04-13 14:24 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-13 14:53 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-13 18:07 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI (was: Dynamically evaluating OCaml code) Christophe TROESTLER
2004-04-13 19:30 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-13 19:57 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI Christophe TROESTLER
2004-04-13 20:45 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14 0:34 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-14 5:35 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14 6:00 ` james woodyatt
2004-04-14 6:21 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14 9:17 ` james woodyatt
2004-04-14 6:16 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14 7:38 ` [Caml-list] BSD vs. GPL Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14 8:32 ` Matt Gushee
2004-04-14 8:48 ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-04-14 8:40 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14 17:14 ` David Brown
2004-04-14 18:50 ` [Caml-list] benefit of package management Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-15 6:46 ` [Caml-list] BSD vs. GPL Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14 15:05 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-15 0:20 ` skaller
2004-04-15 2:36 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-15 17:48 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-04-14 10:50 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI skaller
2004-04-14 1:04 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-14 2:52 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-04-14 5:14 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI vs. Ocamake Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-14 6:53 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-04-14 6:57 ` Kenneth Knowles
[not found] ` <407D2075.2070104@jollys.org>
2004-04-14 16:14 ` ocamlconf on Cygwin (Re: [Caml-list] Re: GODI vs. Ocamake) Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-14 7:50 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI vs. Ocamake Nicolas Cannasse
2004-04-14 11:54 ` skaller
2004-04-14 16:49 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-15 1:05 ` skaller
2004-04-15 6:34 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-15 7:33 ` skaller
2004-04-15 16:00 ` Kenneth Knowles
[not found] ` <1082049025.20677.1250.camel@pelican>
2004-04-15 17:38 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-15 23:58 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-16 1:16 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-16 6:31 ` [Caml-list] build tools - good vs. fast, both cheap Brandon J. Van Every
2004-04-16 14:38 ` skaller
2004-04-16 15:16 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-16 16:12 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-16 16:17 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-16 16:39 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-17 6:01 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-04-17 6:25 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-17 9:19 ` Alain.Frisch
2004-04-16 21:53 ` William Lovas
2004-04-17 2:30 ` skaller
2004-04-17 5:47 ` Blair Zajac
2004-04-17 6:28 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-16 14:52 ` skaller
2004-04-16 16:06 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-16 18:10 ` skaller
2004-04-16 18:43 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-16 19:55 ` skaller
2004-04-16 18:46 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-16 18:55 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-16 20:22 ` skaller
2004-04-16 19:39 ` Richard Jones
2004-04-16 21:00 ` skaller
2004-04-15 9:47 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI vs. Ocamake Markus Mottl
2004-04-15 16:38 ` skaller
2004-04-16 1:30 ` Richard Cole
2004-04-16 14:11 ` skaller
2004-04-15 1:25 ` skaller
2004-04-14 12:19 ` skaller
2004-04-14 18:21 ` Brandon J. Van Every [this message]
2004-04-14 18:54 ` [Caml-list] recompiling bytecode John Goerzen
2004-04-14 20:26 ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-14 20:35 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2004-04-15 1:39 ` skaller
2004-04-14 13:03 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI vs. Ocamake Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-14 12:45 ` [Caml-list] Re: GODI Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-13 15:03 ` [Caml-list] Dynamically evaluating OCaml code Matt Gushee
2004-04-13 17:24 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-04-09 5:40 ` skaller
2004-04-08 15:30 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 16:08 ` Xavier Leroy
2004-04-08 16:44 ` Markus Mottl
2004-04-08 17:35 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-09 6:41 ` skaller
2004-04-08 19:44 ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-09 6:23 ` skaller
2004-04-09 6:33 ` Remi Vanicat
2004-04-09 7:37 ` skaller
2004-04-09 8:17 ` Remi Vanicat
2004-04-09 8:35 ` OT: licences (was Re: [Caml-list] Dynamically evaluating OCaml code) Benjamin Geer
2004-04-10 10:10 ` skaller
2004-04-09 8:36 ` [Caml-list] Dynamically evaluating OCaml code Markus Mottl
2004-04-10 9:59 ` skaller
2004-04-09 9:09 ` james woodyatt
2004-04-08 16:44 ` Bruno.Verlyck
2004-04-08 17:55 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-09 13:44 ` Bruno.Verlyck
2004-04-08 15:31 ` Jon Harrop
2004-04-08 19:52 ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-25 23:07 ` [Caml-list] Is GCaml Dead Again? Greg K
2004-04-08 15:04 ` [Caml-list] Dynamically evaluating OCaml code Fernando Alegre
2004-04-08 15:22 ` Jean-Marc EBER
2004-04-09 6:44 ` Pierre Weis
2004-04-08 15:23 ` Kenneth Knowles
2004-04-08 15:38 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-08 22:31 ` Markus Mottl
2004-04-08 18:28 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2004-04-08 17:15 ` Brian Hurt
2004-04-08 18:32 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2004-04-09 5:04 ` skaller
2004-04-08 17:25 ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-08 7:10 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2004-04-08 17:09 ` Issac Trotts
2004-04-07 21:32 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-04-07 20:39 ` John Goerzen
2004-04-07 21:47 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-04-07 22:14 ` Benjamin Geer
2004-04-08 7:49 ` skaller
2004-04-08 19:11 ` Christophe TROESTLER
[not found] ` <200404072306.15109.clement.capel@free.fr>
2004-04-07 23:25 ` clement capel
2004-04-13 21:25 ` [Caml-list] eval for OCaml Brock
2004-04-08 0:17 ` [Caml-list] Dynamically evaluating OCaml code Jon Harrop
2004-04-08 17:31 ` Walid Taha
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