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From: "Gregory Morrisett" <jgm@CS.Cornell.EDU>
To: "Ville-Pertti Keinonen" <will@exomi.com>,
	"Andreas Rossberg" <rossberg@ps.uni-sb.de>
Cc: <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Bug?  Printf, %X and negative numbers
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:42:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FB4F95390166B14C90E4DD950D69D6E216305D@EXCHVS2.cs.cornell.edu> (raw)

>For generic code, it obviously requires either boxing or specialized 
>versions of the code, as I suggested in a different message.

The TIL (and TILT) and MLTON compilers support untagged integers.
As you suggest (and Xavier well knows) the hard part is dealing
with polymorphic code of which there is a lot in ML.  Consider, for
instance, a function such as map -- whether it produces integer
cons-cells depends upon how map is instantiated.  Life gets
complicated when you don't have tags.  TIL/T solved this by 
passing type representations to polymorphic functions.  These
representations could be used to construct header words for
objects to indicate which fields were[n't] pointers.  The information
was also used to support unboxed doubles, and a few other things.
See my thesis for more information.  

While this approach is viable, it has a lot of costs.  For
some of the tradeoffs, I suggest reading Xavier's excellent 
paper in the 1998 Types in Compilation workshop.  

MLTON avoids these issues by specializing polymorphic code at
all of its uses so that it becomes monomorphic (not unlike C++), 
at the price of separate compilation.

Generics in C# go yet another route with runtime specialization
which has distinct advantages like the possibility of supporting
polymorphic recursion (see Andrew Kennedy & co's papers.)    
There are different tradeoffs here, due to features such as
reflection and "instanceof", etc.

In short, there's a wealth of literature on this subject.  
Ocaml has taken a very expedient approach and in my opinion,
it would be difficult to produce an alternative that 
achieves the same performance without introducing a lot
of complexity.  

-Greg

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             reply	other threads:[~2003-04-02 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-02 18:42 Gregory Morrisett [this message]
2003-04-02 21:12 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-02 21:46   ` Lauri Alanko
2003-04-03 17:40     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-04 16:14   ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-04 17:14     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-04 17:27     ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-03  0:52 ` brogoff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-03  9:29 Fabrice Le Fessant
2003-03-28 21:19 Brian Hurt
2003-03-28 22:21 ` Yutaka OIWA
2003-03-30  9:51 ` Xavier Leroy
2003-03-31 15:44   ` Brian Hurt
2003-03-31 17:13     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-01  8:19     ` Xavier Leroy
2003-04-01 16:09       ` David Brown
2003-04-01 16:45       ` Tim Freeman
2003-04-01 18:59         ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-01 19:16           ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-01 19:23             ` Tim Freeman
2003-04-01 21:00               ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-01 19:56             ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-01 20:45               ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-01 21:03                 ` Brian Hurt
2003-04-02  8:55             ` Andreas Rossberg
2003-04-02  9:20               ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-01 18:34       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2003-04-02 11:44 ` Claude Marche

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