From: Vincent Aravantinos <vincent.aravantinos@gmail.com>
To: Fabrice Le Fessant <Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Efficient OCaml multicore -- roadmap?
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:44:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F1E0FFA9-E6AD-47D4-8A66-04940243A1DC@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DB136FB.6050302@inria.fr>
Le 22 avr. 11 à 10:06, Fabrice Le Fessant a écrit :
> My point was just that J.H. has been writting everywhere, in every
> single forum in the world, that OCaml is bad because it could not
> address fine-grain parallelism, for his personal needs. I thought it
> was
> time for the silent majority of satisfied OCaml users to say, here and
> in those forums, that OCaml is actually addressing their most
> important
> concerns.
I personally don't care that he states Ocaml is bad because of this
lack,
what bothers me more is that he claims that 1. there are less and less
users of Ocaml and 2. this is due to the lack of parallelism. He
pretends
to support claim 1 with the frequentation figures of the mailing lists,
but when I observe those figures by myself I surprinsingly do not find
the same figures as J.H. I probably made a mistake when collecting those
figures. Claim 2 is of course impossible to support in any objective
manner, unless a survey among all former Ocaml users was made. Which, to
my knowledge, has not been done.
Funnily enough, Lisp users have been complaining for years that J.H. was
advertising Ocaml against Lisp in a very unobjective manner on their
mailing list. It's our turn now... Why does he still bother
reading/writing on this mailing list since the same flamewars happen
again and again? My belief is that he is just trying to attract
potential
customers & users to his new favourite language. See e.g. the discussion
"Is OCaml fast?" a few months ago where the original author of the
post told afterwards that J.H. had contacted him privately in order to
advertise F#... From a sales/marketing point of view, this is all the
most fair. But I am not sure that it is the purpose of this list.
V.
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2011-03-24 23:13 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 0:23 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2011-03-25 9:55 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
2011-03-25 11:44 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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2011-03-25 10:23 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 12:07 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-16 12:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 10:51 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 12:25 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-25 12:58 ` Hugo Ferreira
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2011-03-25 13:10 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 13:41 ` Dario Teixeira
2011-03-30 18:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 15:44 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 18:24 ` Martin Jambon
2011-03-25 19:19 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 20:26 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-26 9:11 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-26 10:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-03-30 16:56 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 19:24 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-04-20 21:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-19 9:57 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-19 10:05 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-19 20:26 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-20 7:59 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 12:30 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 12:53 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 13:22 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 14:00 ` Edgar Friendly
2011-04-19 22:49 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 17:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 19:23 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:05 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-20 23:00 ` Jon Harrop
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2011-04-21 7:48 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-04-21 8:35 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-23 17:32 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-21 9:09 ` Alain Frisch
[not found] ` <20110421.210304.1267840107736400776.Christophe.Troestler+ocaml@umons.ac.be>
2011-04-21 19:53 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2011-04-22 8:34 ` Alain Frisch
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2011-04-22 8:06 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-04-22 9:11 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-23 10:17 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-23 13:47 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-23 17:39 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-23 20:18 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-23 21:18 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-24 0:33 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-28 14:42 ` orbitz
2011-04-23 19:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-22 9:44 ` Vincent Aravantinos [this message]
2011-04-21 10:09 ` Philippe Strauss
2011-04-23 17:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-23 17:05 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:30 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-20 23:33 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 20:27 ` Philippe Strauss
2011-04-19 22:47 ` Jon Harrop
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2011-04-20 9:25 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 18:45 ` Andrei Formiga
2011-03-30 17:00 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-13 3:36 ` Lucas Dixon
2011-04-13 13:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-13 13:09 ` Lucas Dixon
2011-04-13 23:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-04-16 13:54 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-24 13:44 Alexy Khrabrov
2011-03-24 14:57 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:03 ` Joel Reymont
2011-03-24 15:28 ` Guillaume Yziquel
2011-03-24 15:48 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:38 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-25 19:49 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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