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From: Paul Snively <psnively@mac.com>
To: David McClain <David.McClain@Avisere.com>
Cc: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] CFG's and OCaml
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:58:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F030AD87-ED49-11D8-BC4D-000A27DEEC20@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73EC7D25-ED42-11D8-99DF-000A95C19BAA@Avisere.com>

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Hi David!

On Aug 13, 2004, at 9:04 AM, David McClain wrote:

> Uhuhh... Yes, I did that same "evil" thing as well, even before 
> discussing all these reduce/reduce conflicts/
>
> What I find is that these screwball little tricks might help, and the 
> might not. YACC is just too darned sensitive to minor and non-obvious 
> perturbations in the input grammar specification. Realizing its 
> legacy, indeed it does arise from the old IBM-360, or more properly 
> PDP-10, days. That was the style of programming back then.. I remember 
> it well.
>
The issue isn't strictly one of style. You're using an entirely 
context-free parser generator to attempt to parse a grammar that _is 
not_ context free. The joker in this deck is that no non-trivial 
grammar is context-free, so all real-world "context free" grammars use 
some kind of trick to get past it. Hence the effort to turn (1) into 
(k) or, better still, (inf), cf. ANTLR, Spirit, Bison 1.50 or later, or 
Elkhound.

> I had though the other night about creating a common subtree of 
> semantic actions and then let the higher levels unravel that subtree. 
> That would probably work well here, but it is a lot more work.
>
Quite. My advice remains to be to use Elkhound.

> David McClain
> Senior Corporate Scientist
> Avisere, Inc.
>
> david.mcclain@avisere.com
> +1.520.390.7738 (USA)
>
Best regards,
Paul

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-13 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-13 14:04 David McClain
2004-08-13 15:05 ` Damien Doligez
2004-08-13 15:26   ` David McClain
2004-08-13 16:12     ` Damien Doligez
2004-08-13 15:28   ` David McClain
2004-08-13 15:49 ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-13 16:04   ` David McClain
2004-08-13 16:29     ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-13 16:42       ` Xavier Leroy
2004-08-13 17:18         ` Ken Rose
2004-08-13 18:55         ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-14  0:25           ` Jon Harrop
2004-08-14  0:57             ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2004-08-14  8:52               ` Alan Schmitt
2004-08-14  3:33             ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-14  7:55             ` skaller
2004-08-14 20:19               ` Jon Harrop
2004-08-14 20:55                 ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-14 20:57                   ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-08-14 22:15                     ` skaller
2004-08-15  1:26                   ` Jon Harrop
2004-08-15  8:24                     ` skaller
2004-08-15 15:39                     ` Brian Hurt
2004-08-15 16:54                       ` Jon Harrop
2004-08-14 22:13                 ` skaller
2004-08-13 16:58     ` Paul Snively [this message]
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2004-08-12 19:15 David McClain

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