From: "Quôc Peyrot" <chojin@lrde.epita.fr>
To: Pal-Kristian Engstad <pal_engstad@naughtydog.com>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Book about functional design patterns
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:34:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F00765A8-6A15-415A-9E2E-D693A9558387@lrde.epita.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4682D440.2060901@naughtydog.com>
On Jun 27, 2007, at 11:18 PM, Pal-Kristian Engstad wrote:
> Quôc Peyrot wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Pal-Kristian Engstad wrote:
>>
>>> Quôc Peyrot wrote:
>>>> I don't understand that part. Each time you add a node, log2(n)
>>>> node needs to be re-allocated. Hence the total number of
>>>> reallocations is:
>>>> Sum(ceil(log2(i)), i = 1..N) with N = 1000000, which is
>>>> significant.
>>
>> Oops, my mistake I meant "floor" not ceil.
>>
>>> So you are saying that inserting N elements into a tree takes O
>>> (n*log2(n)).
>>
>> Not exactly, log2(N!) is a closer estimate (estimate because of
>> the "floor" introducing a bias in the sum)
> No, no. Let's assume it always touches log2(n) elements, where n
> goes from 1 .. N. Then we have:
>
> time = C * log2(1) + C * log2(2) + C * log2(3) + .... + C * log
> N = C * (log2(1) + ... + log2(N) <= C * N * log2(N),
>
> since
>
> log(n) <= log(N).
I think we agree, I'm just saying that C*N*log2(N) is a over-
estimated upper bound for large N.
C*(log2(1) + ... + log2(N)) = C * log2(1*2*....*N) = C * log2(N!)
hence
time <= C*log2(N!) <= C * N * log2(N)
as an example, for N = 100
sum(floor(log2(i)), i = 1..100) = 480
log2(100!) = 524 (overestimated by 10%)
100 * log2(100) = 664 (overestimated by 40%)
for large N, the difference is going to be significant.
But anyway, the details doesn't matter, it just looks to me that
inserting N elements in a functional map, is really significant.
If my maths are correct, for only 1000 elements, we are going to have
an extra 8500 allocations (the difference is so huge I actually can't
believe my maths...)
--
Best Regards,
Quôc
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2007-06-27 12:14 The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 13:18 ` [Caml-list] " Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 13:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 14:18 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 15:09 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 15:28 ` Mattias Engdegård
2007-06-27 15:38 ` Robert Fischer
2007-06-27 15:48 ` Mattias Engdegård
2007-06-27 16:01 ` Robert Fischer
2007-06-27 16:01 ` Mattias Engdegård
2007-06-27 18:06 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 18:31 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-27 19:56 ` skaller
2007-06-27 20:17 ` Jonathan Bryant
2007-06-27 22:57 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 16:53 ` Hash-consing (was Re: [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments) Daniel Bünzli
2007-06-30 8:19 ` [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments Pierre Etchemaïté
2007-06-27 13:55 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 15:06 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 15:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 11:01 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 11:32 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 11:42 ` Joel Reymont
2007-06-28 12:08 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 13:10 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-28 13:35 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 12:59 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 13:05 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 13:33 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 14:43 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 16:01 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 17:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 16:39 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 19:26 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-28 11:39 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 14:44 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 16:03 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-28 17:20 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-06-28 22:12 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-29 1:10 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-29 10:55 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-29 6:12 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-06-27 17:16 ` Book about functional design patterns Gabriel Kerneis
2007-06-27 17:48 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 19:33 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 19:30 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 19:48 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-27 20:04 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 20:35 ` Brian Hurt
2007-06-27 20:55 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 20:58 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2007-06-27 21:18 ` Quôc Peyrot
2007-06-27 21:18 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2007-06-27 21:34 ` Quôc Peyrot [this message]
2007-06-27 22:13 ` Pal-Kristian Engstad
2007-06-27 15:18 ` [Caml-list] The Implicit Accumulator: a design pattern using optional arguments Jon Harrop
2007-06-27 16:44 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-27 18:17 ` Jon Harrop
2007-06-28 11:18 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-06-29 13:15 ` Bill Wood
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