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From: james woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>
To: Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] classes, objects, and class variables
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:37:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E84567F7-351A-11D8-B154-000393B8133A@wetware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031120220714O.garrigue@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp>

[just now catching up with my caml mail; i left it accumulating unread 
for a couple months]

On 20 Nov 2003, at 05:07, Jacques Garrigue wrote:
>
> But in this process, I came along with the rather strange behaviour of
> class variables. Class variables are defined by a let before any
> parameters, for instance
>   class c = let a = init () in fun ... -> object ... end
> Their current semantics is to be evaluated repeatedly, once for c,
> but again for all classes inheriting from c. The problem is that this
> is costly for the implementation, doesn't fit well with the
> possibility to create dynamically an arbitrary number of classes
> inheriting from, and that I don't see what it's intended for.
>
> So I'm planning to revert to the more intuitive semantics: evaluation
> when creating c, but never again.
>
> Does that bother anybody?

The behavior you want to change is a behavior I noticed and it bothered 
me when I noticed it.  I just chalked it up to yet another weird thing 
about classes.  In order to get the behavior I wanted, I just lifted 
all my class variables out of the class definitions and used module 
signatures to hide them.

You want to make this change?  I'm supportive.  Please do.

One request I would make: please retain the functional object semantics 
and the {< ... >} syntax.  I used that feature with state monads and I 
like it a lot.


-- 
j h woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-20 13:07 Jacques Garrigue
2003-11-20 15:53 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-12-23  7:37 ` james woodyatt [this message]

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