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From: Yoann Padioleau <padator@wanadoo.fr>
To: Dario Teixeira <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>
Cc: Joel Reymont <joelr1@gmail.com>, Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org>,
	caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] scalable web apps
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:44:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E842FCA4-B51A-43AB-BDA8-8C1FDF198FEA@wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <863869.15208.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


On Jul 25, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Dario Teixeira wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
>> I would ask that question again, but miss out the "with OCaml" part,
>> because really the choice of language doesn't matter very much.
> 
> Indeed.  Note, however, that more than once have people raised the issue
> of Ocaml's non-concurrent GC on Ocsigen's mailing-list.  The doubt is
> always whether this makes any Ocaml-based framework unsuitable for
> scalable web applications.  I think it's important to assuage those fears
> once and for all: in no meaningful way does Ocaml's single-coredness
> constitute an impediment towards scalability in the web domain.

Yep. Facebook is written in PHP which does not even have threads ...

> 
> 
>> Or if you prefer think of it this way: People are using really
>> unsuitable languages (PHP) and really slow languages (Ruby, PHP,
>> Python, Perl) on some massive websites out there.
> 
> Yeap.  Personally, I find Ocsigen's greatest advantage to be the safety
> and expressiveness that it brings to backend programming (and soon also
> to the frontend).  The fact that it's also fast is just icing on the cake...

My biggest issue with OCsigen is the lack of documentation and examples.
With rails you got lots of books, and you got example of non trivial websites
like a mini amazon (called depot: http://pragprog.com/titles/rails2/source_code)
in less than 2000 lines of code.





> 
> Cheers,
> Dario Teixeira
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-25 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-24  7:49 Joel Reymont
2010-07-24  8:57 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-07-24 10:55 ` [Caml-list] " William Le Ferrand
2010-07-25 13:52 ` Dario Teixeira
2010-07-25 19:19   ` Joel Reymont
2010-07-26  7:29   ` Török Edwin
2010-07-26  7:59     ` Jérémie Dimino
2010-07-26  8:19       ` Török Edwin
2010-07-27  6:46         ` Jérémie Dimino
2010-07-26 11:27       ` Dario Teixeira
2010-07-26 19:57       ` Jake Donham
2010-07-26 20:02         ` Török Edwin
2010-07-27  6:55         ` Jérémie Dimino
2010-07-26  9:11   ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-07-26 11:10     ` [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2010-07-26 12:58       ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-07-26 13:20         ` [Caml-list] " William Le Ferrand
2010-07-25 19:46 ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2010-07-25 21:45   ` Dario Teixeira
2010-07-25 21:56     ` Joel Reymont
2010-07-25 22:03       ` Gabriel Kerneis
2010-07-25 22:24       ` Dario Teixeira
2010-07-26  7:34       ` Richard Jones
2010-07-26 11:20         ` Dario Teixeira
2010-07-26 16:50           ` Florent Monnier
2010-07-26 17:10             ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-07-26 17:21               ` [Caml-list] " Gabriel Kerneis
2010-07-26 17:37                 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-07-25 22:44     ` Yoann Padioleau [this message]
2010-07-26  9:08       ` Sylvain Le Gall

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