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From: David Allsopp <dra-news@metastack.com>
To: OCaML List Mailing <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] ocaml considered dangerous
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:11:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E51C5B015DBD1348A1D85763337FB6D9E02E160F@Remus.metastack.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPFanBEoZksLoahT3wQH-gU47JUgQXOYDUTYRbYbDoqtrPoS3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Does this new version fix positional specifiers? (http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=4204) or has that rather useful (if never working!) feature been consigned to history?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: caml-list-request@inria.fr [mailto:caml-list-request@inria.fr] On
> Behalf Of Gabriel Scherer
> Sent: 18 January 2014 07:05
> To: Jeremy Yallop
> Cc: Jon Harrop; Jacques Garrigue; OCaML List Mailing
> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml considered dangerous
> 
> I guess one could also mention that the no-magic implementation is notably
> faster than the current implementation (as it avoids any format string
> parsing at runtime), which is not necessarily a concern for printf (for
> large output you're probably killed by I/O overhead
> anyway) but can be for sprintf or bprintf.
> 
> Note that while the current proposal uses GADTs, Benoît also experimented
> with reasonable similar designs using higher-order function (this is the
> usual initial vs. final tagless interpreter
> choice) that would have been implementable before 4.00.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Jeremy Yallop <yallop@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jacques Garrigue wrote:
> >>> By the way, there is now an implementation of Printf that avoids most
> of the Obj.magic by using GADTs. It should be merged soon.
> >
> > Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
> >> Just curious: is that a drop-in replacement?
> >
> > Yes, except for some tiny incompatibilities, mostly fixes for bugs
> > that the development of the GADT version uncovered in the original
> > implementation.  The patch is here, along with a description and some
> > discussion:
> >
> >    http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=6017
> >
> > The author, Benoît Vaugon, presented the design along with some
> > performance figures at OCaml 2013:
> >
> >    http://ocaml.org/meetings/ocaml/2013/proposals/formats-as-gadts.pdf
> >    http://ocaml.org/meetings/ocaml/2013/slides/vaugon.pdf
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-18  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-16 23:00 Jürgen Pfitzenmaier
2014-01-16 23:27 ` Milan Stanojević
2014-01-16 23:33 ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-01-17  0:43 ` Nicolas Braud-Santoni
2014-01-20 10:07   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-17  2:12 ` Jeff Meister
2014-01-17  2:38 ` Jacques Garrigue
2014-01-17  9:01   ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-18  0:39   ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-18  2:22     ` Jeremy Yallop
2014-01-18  7:04       ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-18  9:11         ` David Allsopp [this message]
2014-01-18  9:28           ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-18  9:43             ` David Allsopp
2014-01-18  9:59               ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-19  6:09         ` oleg

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