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From: Keith Wansbrough <Keith.Wansbrough@cl.cam.ac.uk>
To: "Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla" <dido@imperium.ph>
Cc: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>, caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Observations on OCaml vs. Haskell
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:31:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1CCEL8-00012D-00@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:24:49 +0800." <20040927202449.GA548@imperium.ph>

> and both languages seem to be significantly slower than OCaml in string
> handling, at least as far as this site goes:
> 
> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/
> 
> For the word count benchmark OCaml scores 0.1850 seconds, while GHC is a
> dismal last place at 105.2110 seconds!  Even the bytecode ocaml is an
> order of magnitude faster.  The word frequency benchmark also shows this
> kind of poor string handling performance for Haskell, with OCaml scoring
> 0.5669 seconds, while GHC scores a truly dismal 6.4540, more than an
> order of magnitude slower, and even the bytecode ocaml is faster at
> 4.2644 seconds.

I severely doubt that these times are representative - the shootout
doesn't claim to be serious or meaningful.  A factor of ten is
possible, but a factor of 1000 shows that something else is wrong.

But it's true that for text-handling performance in GHC you have to
use something other than list-of-Char; typically you use PackedString,
which is basically an array of bytes.  The boxing and unboxing
certainly has significant cost.

Note that GHC characters are Unicode, and stored in 32 bits; OCaml
characters are only 8 bits wide, and so OCaml has a 4x advantage right
away - but loses the potential for i18n.

HTH.

--KW 8-)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-28  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-27 19:08 John Goerzen
2004-09-27 20:24 ` Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla
2004-09-27 21:34   ` Danny Yoo
2004-09-28  7:22     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-09-28 18:02       ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-29 14:26         ` Brian Hurt
2004-09-29 14:20           ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-29 15:03           ` Dmitry Lomov
2004-09-28 10:10     ` [Caml-list] Caml monomorphisation (was Observations on OCaml vs. Haskell) Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-09-28 12:01       ` Richard Jones
2004-09-28 17:50       ` Jon Harrop
2004-09-28  1:56   ` [Caml-list] Observations on OCaml vs. Haskell skaller
2004-09-28  9:31   ` Keith Wansbrough [this message]
2004-09-28  9:55     ` Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla
2004-09-27 21:11 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2004-09-28  1:32 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2004-09-28  1:46 ` skaller
2004-09-28  8:27 ` Richard Jones

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