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From: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
To: Jeremy Yallop <yallop@gmail.com>
Cc: Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com>,
	Jacques Garrigue <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>,
	 OCaML List Mailing <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml considered dangerous
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:04:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPFanBEoZksLoahT3wQH-gU47JUgQXOYDUTYRbYbDoqtrPoS3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAxsn=HWEd-rnqYbUobjcSMF6xn8farz76bfKd84uEzCpSqJOw@mail.gmail.com>

I guess one could also mention that the no-magic implementation is
notably faster than the current implementation (as it avoids any
format string parsing at runtime), which is not necessarily a concern
for printf (for large output you're probably killed by I/O overhead
anyway) but can be for sprintf or bprintf.

Note that while the current proposal uses GADTs, Benoît also
experimented with reasonable similar designs using higher-order
function (this is the usual initial vs. final tagless interpreter
choice) that would have been implementable before 4.00.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Jeremy Yallop <yallop@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jacques Garrigue wrote:
>>> By the way, there is now an implementation of Printf that avoids most of the Obj.magic by using GADTs. It should be merged soon.
>
> Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
>> Just curious: is that a drop-in replacement?
>
> Yes, except for some tiny incompatibilities, mostly fixes for bugs
> that the development of the GADT version uncovered in the original
> implementation.  The patch is here, along with a description and some
> discussion:
>
>    http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=6017
>
> The author, Benoît Vaugon, presented the design along with some
> performance figures at OCaml 2013:
>
>    http://ocaml.org/meetings/ocaml/2013/proposals/formats-as-gadts.pdf
>    http://ocaml.org/meetings/ocaml/2013/slides/vaugon.pdf
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-18  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-16 23:00 Jürgen Pfitzenmaier
2014-01-16 23:27 ` Milan Stanojević
2014-01-16 23:33 ` Daniel Bünzli
2014-01-17  0:43 ` Nicolas Braud-Santoni
2014-01-20 10:07   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2014-01-17  2:12 ` Jeff Meister
2014-01-17  2:38 ` Jacques Garrigue
2014-01-17  9:01   ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-18  0:39   ` Jon Harrop
2014-01-18  2:22     ` Jeremy Yallop
2014-01-18  7:04       ` Gabriel Scherer [this message]
2014-01-18  9:11         ` David Allsopp
2014-01-18  9:28           ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-18  9:43             ` David Allsopp
2014-01-18  9:59               ` Gabriel Scherer
2014-01-19  6:09         ` oleg

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