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From: Damien Doligez <damien.doligez@inria.fr>
To: Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>
Cc: Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org>,
	OCaml Mailing List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] use of ";;" when teaching Ocaml
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:48:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALGm1Vig7vhXaHP-D0pb4BqhZVA1xUWObJd4Bpd_WGb5XjbVLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1434982765.31996.19.camel@e130.lan.sumadev.de>

Gerd has totally nailed it, and that's the reason why I always use ;;
in my code.
If we had another keyword for toplevel let (let without in) the
situation would be quite different.

-- Damien


On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de> wrote:
> Am Montag, den 22.06.2015, 15:31 +0200 schrieb Alan Schmitt:
>> Hello,
>>
>> In my Ocaml class, I tend to promote the use of ";;" to separate phrases
>> (I'm basically following
>> http://ocaml.org/learn/tutorials/structure_of_ocaml_programs.html#Usingandomittingand
>> although I was not aware of this page when I created the course). My
>> motivation is to minimize the difference between using the top-level and
>> writing files.
>>
>> I am now wondering if this is a good practice. In a nutshell, would you
>> rather use
>>
>> #+begin_src ocaml
>> let x = 12;;
>> print_endline "Hello World!"
>> #+end_src
>>
>> or
>>
>> #+begin_src ocaml
>> let x = 12
>> let () = print_endline "Hello World!"
>> #+end_src
>>
>> when teaching Ocaml?
>
> There is one downside of not using ";;", namely that you sometimes get
> syntax errors much later than necessary. E.g. in
>
> let x =
>   do_this();
>   do_that();
> let y = 6
> let z =
>   do_third_thing()
>
> you get the syntax error at the position of the third "let" although it
> is the extra semicolon at the end of the first definition. This can be
> very confusing, and it is a very good reason to use ";;" outside the
> toplevel. IMHO it is better to be honest about this issue. Because "let"
> is an open-ended construction the ";;" can be useful as end marker, and
> the compiler emits better error messages with more precise locations.
>
> Gerd
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Gerd Stolpmann, Darmstadt, Germany    gerd@gerd-stolpmann.de
> My OCaml site:          http://www.camlcity.org
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>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-22 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-22 13:31 Alan Schmitt
2015-06-22 13:52 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-06-22 13:53 ` Daniil Baturin
2015-06-22 14:19 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2015-06-22 15:48   ` Damien Doligez [this message]
2015-06-22 15:56     ` Thomas Refis
2015-06-22 16:07       ` Mark Shinwell
2015-06-22 16:30         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2015-06-22 16:47           ` Mark Shinwell
2015-06-22 17:08             ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-06-22 18:56             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2015-06-22 17:18           ` Török Edwin
2015-06-22 17:42         ` Francois Berenger
2015-06-22 17:46           ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-06-22 17:53           ` John Whitington
2015-06-22 16:07     ` Pippijn van Steenhoven
2015-06-22 16:25       ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-06-22 18:18       ` Steve Zdancewic
2015-06-22 16:42   ` Thomas Refis
2015-06-22 16:47     ` David House
2015-06-22 17:08     ` Daniil Baturin
2015-06-22 17:04 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-06-22 23:41 ` Philippe Wang
2015-06-23  1:15   ` Kenichi Asai
2015-06-23 13:27   ` Alan Schmitt
2015-06-23 13:35     ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-06-23 13:36       ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-06-25 16:51     ` Philippe Wang
2015-06-29  0:12       ` Philippe Wang

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