From: Jeff Meister <nanaki@gmail.com>
To: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
Cc: Caml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: ocamlbuild (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: GODI is shutting down)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:29:42 -0700 [thread overview]
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I have a codebase that currently depends on an old version of OMake, and I
would rather use ocamlbuild instead. As an end user, I see two key
advantages: ocamlbuild is part of INRIA's official OCaml distribution,
which implies a certain level of commitment to continued support, and
ocamlbuild knows all about how to build OCaml projects (even using
ocamlfind), so for simple applications it "just works".
However, I was reluctant to look into ocamlbuild when it first appeared,
since the only documentation was a set of presentation slides. It seemed
powerful, but like you, I am not really interested in build systems. I'm
more encouraged now that a section has appeared in the OCaml manual. Aside
from that, are there any other resources I should look into? I'm wondering
if there are some documents, or even mailing list threads, that would help
me learn how to customize the building of a complex codebase like you just
did in the "which ocaml build system" thread? I'm hoping there is a way to
acquire this knowledge that doesn't involve trial and error with the build
system. :)
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com
> wrote:
> I am not very interested in build systems. I use one (ocamlbuild) that
> I find decent (has several known areas of improvement, but bear with
> me), and instead of rewriting a new one from scratch¹ I decided that
> maybe the existing one I could be improved to fix its shortcomings.
> You know, by writing bug reports, and more importantly proposing
> patches (to the code or the documentation), instead of just
> complaining on the mailing-list. I'm not aware, so far, of a major
> design problem that can't be incrementally fixed, and whose resolution
> is worth the pain of switching to a completely new system.
>
> ¹: or juggling with three different unannounced build systems; I think
> you forgot Jenga and the various adaptations of redo for OCaml; nobody
> added OCaml rules to Shake as far as I know, but certainly that will
> happen in the future.
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Francois Berenger <berenger@riken.jp>
> wrote:
> > On 07/26/2013 05:03 AM, Adrien Nader wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I believe this entry on the bugtracker is worth mentionning:
> >> "ocamlbuild should expose common interface as a library"
> >> http://caml.inria.fr/mantis/view.php?id=5869
> >>
> >> More generally, ocamlbuild's development was mostly stalled but has
> >> restarted recently. This should allow fixing many issues and
> >> shortcomings.
> >
> >
> > There is not only ocamlbuild!
> >
> > I would love to see projects such as obuild:
> >
> > https://github.com/vincenthz/obuild
> >
> > come out of the woods (like an official release announce if it is
> > ready for mass consumption) and become the de facto gold standard.
> >
> > PS: even OCamlPro have written a tool to replace ocamlbuild
> > (ocp-build)...
> >
> >
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-22 21:21 [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-22 22:32 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-23 6:49 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-23 8:46 ` Keyan
2013-07-23 8:57 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-23 9:45 ` Paolo Donadeo
2013-07-23 13:31 ` Marek Kubica
2013-07-24 9:09 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-07-23 9:34 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-23 10:00 ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2013-07-22 23:44 ` oliver
2013-07-23 0:03 ` Nicolas Braud-Santoni
2013-07-23 1:51 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-24 9:27 ` [Caml-list] " Andreas Hauptmann
2013-07-23 9:07 ` [Caml-list] " Adrien Nader
2013-07-23 10:01 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-23 10:22 ` oliver
2013-07-24 1:55 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-24 7:03 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2013-07-24 8:42 ` Jun Furuse
2013-07-24 10:30 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 14:46 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 12:36 ` AW: [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2013-07-24 14:44 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 15:58 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 16:25 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 16:36 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-24 16:41 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-25 15:21 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 16:39 ` AW: [Caml-list] " Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 16:58 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 17:06 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-24 17:33 ` Török Edwin
2013-07-24 18:49 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-25 15:16 ` [Caml-list] Re: AW: " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 15:29 ` Leo White
2013-07-25 15:33 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 16:39 ` [Caml-list] " Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-24 17:05 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-24 17:56 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-24 18:23 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 20:43 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 5:32 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-25 9:52 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 21:01 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-25 1:32 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-25 15:10 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 15:23 ` Christopher Zimmermann
2013-07-25 20:03 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-26 1:14 ` ocamlbuild (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: GODI is shutting down) Francois Berenger
2013-07-26 2:43 ` Peter Groves
2013-07-26 5:02 ` Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-26 5:26 ` [Caml-list] Re: ocamlbuild Francois Berenger
2013-07-26 7:25 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-26 8:07 ` Francois Berenger
2013-07-26 9:24 ` r.3
2013-07-26 10:48 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-26 11:13 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-26 17:29 ` Ashish Agarwal
2013-07-26 5:29 ` Jeff Meister [this message]
2013-07-26 6:14 ` ocamlbuild (was Re: [Caml-list] Re: GODI is shutting down) Gabriel Scherer
2013-07-26 13:48 ` Dario Teixeira
2013-07-25 20:18 ` [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-24 18:04 ` Markus Mottl
2013-07-24 16:18 ` AW: " Matej Kosik
2013-07-24 16:17 ` David Sheets
2013-07-24 16:56 ` Matej Kosik
2013-07-24 17:03 ` Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-25 15:01 ` [Caml-list] Re: AW: " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-24 22:05 ` AW: [Caml-list] " Siraaj Khandkar
2013-07-24 22:06 ` Virgile Prevosto
2013-07-24 22:47 ` Amir Chaudhry
2013-07-24 23:03 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-07-25 5:22 ` Adrien Nader
2013-07-23 9:28 ` [Caml-list] Re: [Godi-list] " Thomas Gazagnaire
2013-07-23 15:32 ` Pierre-Etienne Meunier
2013-07-23 15:37 ` David Sheets
2013-07-23 15:44 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-23 16:19 ` Pierre-Etienne Meunier
2013-07-23 16:26 ` Ashish Agarwal
2013-07-23 16:32 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-23 16:55 ` Virgile Prevosto
2013-07-28 22:29 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-07-23 19:38 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-07-23 19:49 ` Pierre-Etienne Meunier
2013-07-23 20:02 ` Yaron Minsky
2013-07-23 22:35 ` [Caml-list] " Mike Lin
2013-07-25 16:10 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 17:42 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-07-25 18:52 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 18:28 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2013-07-25 19:00 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2013-07-25 19:23 ` Yotam Barnoy
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