Re: [Caml-list] GODI is shutting down

[Mike Lin <mlin@mlin.net>]

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Gerd,
Thanks for all your work maintaining GODI over the years.
Mike



On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>wrote:

> Dear subscriber,
>
> Unfortunately, it is no longer possible for me to run the GODI
> distribution. GODI will not upgrade to OCaml 4.01 once it is out, and it
> will shut down the public service in the course of September 2013. The
> website, camlcity.org, will remain up, but with reduced content. Existing
> GODI installations can be continued to be used, but upgrades or bugfixes
> will not be available when GODI is off.
>
> Although there are still a lot of GODI users, it is unavoidable to shut
> GODI down due to lack of supporters, especially package developers. I was
> more or less alone in the past months, and my time contingent will not
> allow it to do the upgrade to OCaml 4.01 alone (when it is released).
>
> Also, there was a lot of noise about a competing packaging system for
> OCaml in the past weeks: OPAM. Apparently, it got a lot of attention both
> from individuals and from organizations. As I see it, the OCaml community
> is too small to support two systems, and so in some sense GODI is
> displaced by OPAM.
>
> The sad part is that OPAM is only clearly better in one point, namely in
> interacting with the community (via Github). In times where social
> networks are worth billions this is probably the striking point. It
> doesn't matter that OPAM lacks core functions like deleting all files when
> a package is removed, and that it lacks many other features GODI has. So
> there is some loss of functionality for the community (partly difficult to
> replace, like GODI's support for Windows).
>
> If somebody wants to take over GODI, please do so. The source code is
> still available as well as the package directories. Maybe it is sufficient
> to move the repository to a public place and to redesign the package
> release process to give GODI a restart.
>
> There is also another point that was driving me mad in the past weeks,
> namely missing respect from the OPAM guys. Given the fact that OPAM is
> only a thin layer around ocamlfind (and guess who wrote it), and given the
> fact that GODI was pioneering in many fields, I was expecting nicer
> wordings, and less dumb campaigning ("we have 400 packages, and you only
> 170"). OPAM is only harvesting what I seeded many years ago.
>
> Let's hope these guys get now some kicks into their asses, and are forced
> to add all the functionality to OPAM the OCaml community deserves.
>
> Hoorn (NL), the 22nd July 2013,
>
> Gerd Stolpmann
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> Creator of GODI and camlcity.org.
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