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From: ivan chollet <ivan.chollet@gmail.com>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rich@annexia.org>
Cc: Lukasz Stafiniak <lukstafi@gmail.com>,
	Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons <dofp.ocaml@gmail.com>,
	caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Examples where let rec is undesirable
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 20:27:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACm_MF8JrUsoGFG1Bq3CHEkHBFRPWg=NzrgrwBSkThpTO59LZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120105200442.GA17669@annexia.org>

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Allowing variable shadowing is aesthetically more satisfying and more
expressive, but opens the door to bugs that can be harder to track by
static analysis.
I would be interested to hear the pro-arguments for variable shadowing,
besides the slight gain in expressiveness.


On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rich@annexia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:05:39AM +0100, Lukasz Stafiniak wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
> > <dofp.ocaml@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >     List,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if there was any reason not to make "let rec" the
> default /
> > > sole option, meaning cases where you clearly don't want a "let rec"
> instead
> > > of "let" (only in functions, not cyclic data).
> > >
> > >          Diego Olivier
> >
> > The default "no-rec" allows for name recycling -- using the same name
> > for an incrementally transformed value, i.e. to bind the intermediate
> > results. Name recycling minimizes the cognitive burden: there are less
> > names to remember in a scope, and differences in names are justified
> > by differences in purpose of the values. Are there reasons to consider
> > name recycling a bad style?
>
> I had an argument about this with a noted open source developer
> recently.  He was saying that C's approach -- not permitting variable
> names to be reused within a single function -- was somehow
> advantageous.  From my point of view, having used both languages
> extensively, OCaml's way is *far* better.
>
> So yes, 'let' and 'let rec', long may they be different.
>
> Rich.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-05 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-02 22:37 Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2012-01-02 22:49 ` Alexandre Pilkiewicz
2012-01-03  0:05 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2012-01-03  5:47   ` Martin Jambon
2012-01-03  8:07     ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-01-05 20:04   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2012-01-05 20:27     ` ivan chollet [this message]
2012-01-05 20:46       ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-01-05 21:39         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2012-01-06  2:39           ` Cedric Cellier
2012-01-06 15:22         ` Damien Doligez
2012-01-05 21:36       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2012-01-05 23:16         ` ivan chollet
2012-01-06  8:34           ` David Allsopp
2012-01-06 10:34           ` Daniel Bünzli
2012-01-03 13:05 ` Yaron Minsky

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