From: Dustin Sallings <dustin@spy.net>
To: John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Executable size?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:05:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C355048C-153A-11D8-A660-000393CFE6B8@spy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311121605570.1430@alice>
On Nov 12, 2003, at 8:14, John J Lee wrote:
> How does O'Caml compare with languages like Haskell (ghc), C and C++
> for
> executable size? Does compiled code depend on a runtime library (and
> how
> big is that, if so)?
Well, the bin is bigger than a minimal C app with the same
functionality. There is no runtime library required (I build and
distribute apps). I somehow don't have ghc on my machines here to do a
comparison.
> Are there any easily-identifiable, non-obvious, factors that affect
> executable size (I'm talking about end-use factors, rather those
> resulting
> from the design decisions taken by the language designers and
> implementors)?
(don't know)
> I currently use Python by preference, but I'm interested in a language
> (other than C/C++!) that doesn't depend on a big runtime library and
> generates "reasonably" small executables -- modems are here to stay
> for a
> while yet.
The stuff I build on my Mac ends up being about 300k so far. That
seems reasonably small to me.
I'm not sure what a modem has to do with your distribution, but there
are options. You could distribute the source to your app (which will
be way smaller than the equivalent C or C++ application) and compile
elsewhere, or you can use the transfer time to bask in your
productivity and performance gains. :)
Python is a bad reference for two reasons:
1) You don't typically distribute compiled python apps (and when you
do, it's always bytecode).
2) Ocaml's runtime is *amazingly* fast.
I've prototyped a few apps in python before rewriting in ocaml for
performance. The speed gains alone are beginning to push python away
from being my primary utility app language. I like a lot about the
language as well.
--
Dustin Sallings
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-12 16:14 John J Lee
2003-11-12 17:33 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 18:06 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:31 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:50 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 9:10 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-13 13:46 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 14:28 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:21 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 22:53 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 23:50 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 12:48 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:25 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:06 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 18:38 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 19:04 ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-12 21:29 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:03 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-13 4:14 ` Kamil Shakirov
2003-11-13 9:06 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-13 9:18 ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:46 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:40 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:10 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2003-11-12 20:35 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 21:51 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 21:35 ` David Brown
2003-11-12 22:12 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:32 ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 22:53 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:35 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 23:44 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 0:26 ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-13 1:29 ` [Caml-list] F-sharp (was: Executable size?) Oleg Trott
2003-11-14 6:04 ` [Caml-list] float_of_num Christophe Raffalli
2003-11-13 15:43 ` [Caml-list] Executable size? Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 19:58 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 20:36 ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 22:16 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 13:41 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:13 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 18:07 ` skaller
2003-11-15 13:36 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:01 ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 17:53 ` skaller
2003-11-13 13:37 ` Florian Hars
2003-11-12 18:05 ` Dustin Sallings [this message]
2003-11-12 18:36 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:04 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 20:17 ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:01 ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2003-11-13 1:23 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-15 12:09 ` skaller
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