From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by walapai.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p5SCaO4H022517 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:36:24 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAIPJCU7RVdQ2kGdsb2JhbAA8AQMSmBuHCYgQCBQBAQEBCQkNBxQEIYh3pEWMGoJKhQw5iGgCAwaDLIJ+BIJKj0aMEDyDVw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,437,1304287200"; d="scan'208";a="112092544" Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com ([209.85.212.54]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 28 Jun 2011 14:36:18 +0200 Received: by mail-vw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 18so199765vws.27 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jjqD+/dtm9ntN8a/7CAer8FbRVFcZJcsLV3DomweaOc=; b=BWNWFB40t8/+/DmOuFLig8EQfbQ+fmhS3mxCPFe8qvh3PPcH3KPiCINuRQY2DBWaZn L/aPxsjzt84x1yiketX5sxFYHLXnU1y0fMlLe8c83KKP38MT+MEjrLUBySp8gdZX6UkW pg71Uyb91xMyr2NwkoXQoezBzLpeIp8SjfmGU= Received: by 10.52.99.7 with SMTP id em7mr9937217vdb.131.1309264578106; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.168.73 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:35:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110628074716.7524c468.mihamina@bbs.mg> <4E0989B6.80902@inria.fr> <20110628151734.fc550345.mihamina@bbs.mg> From: Gabriel Scherer Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:35:58 +0200 Message-ID: To: caml-list@inria.fr, Philippe Wang Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f370418568004a6c4eaeb Subject: Re: [Caml-list] beginners or not (Was: build problem with 3.12.0; no ocamlrun in /usr/local/bin) --20cf307f370418568004a6c4eaeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What I don't like with the current beginners list is that it is a yahoo list. This means yet another painful "create an account" process to subscribe, useless stuff added at the end of emails, and general an unnecessary interface clutter added on top of an otherwise simple and efficient communication tool. Philippe, what do you mean by "hack with a tiny community", do you have example of discussions that would be pertinent there? Why would it be harmful to have them in the standard mailing list? On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Philippe Wang wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby > wrote: > >> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:58:46 +0200 > >> Fabrice Le Fessant wrote: > > > >> Is it really necessary to > >> have two mailing-lists, especially when considering the traffic on > >> both lists ? > > > > I am also subscribed to the "beginners" list. > > IMHO, it's useless to have 2 MLs. > > IMHO, currently, it's more "harmful" than "useless". > Or, perhaps it'd be relevant to have two mailing list: > - a "normal" mailing list (which would be the result of combining > current caml-list and caml-beginners lists), > - and a "hackers" mailing list for those who want to hack with a tiny > community. > > Anyhow, the "default" mailing list being the one for hackers and > experimented users is, imho, very bad for OCaml. > > -- > Philippe Wang > mail@philippewang.info > > > -- > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: > https://sympa-roc.inria.fr/wws/info/caml-list > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs > > --20cf307f370418568004a6c4eaeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I don't like with the current beginners list is that it is a yahoo= list. This means yet another painful "create an account" process= to subscribe, useless stuff added at the end of emails, and general an unn= ecessary interface clutter added on top of an otherwise simple and efficien= t communication tool.

Philippe, what do you mean by "hack with a tiny community", d= o you have example of discussions that would be pertinent there? Why would = it be harmful to have them in the standard mailing list?

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Philippe Wang <mail@philippewang.info> w= rote:
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby<= br> <mihamina@bbs.mg> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:58:46 +0200
>> Fabrice Le Fessant <Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr> wrote:
>
>> =A0Is it really necessary to
>> have two mailing-lists, especially when considering the traffic on=
>> both lists ?
>
> I am also subscribed to the "beginners" list.
> IMHO, it's useless to have 2 MLs.

IMHO, currently, it's more "harmful" than "useless= ".
Or, perhaps it'd be relevant to have two mailing list:
- =A0a "normal" mailing list (which would be the result of combin= ing
current caml-list and caml-beginners lists),
- and a "hackers" mailing list for those who want to hack with a = tiny community.

Anyhow, the "default" mailing list being the one for hackers and<= br> experimented users is, imho, very bad for OCaml.

--
Philippe Wang
=A0=A0 mail@philippewang.info=


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