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From: james woodyatt <jhwoodyatt@mac.com>
To: Markus Mottl <markus@oefai.at>
Cc: The Trade <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: variance, subtyping and monads... oh, my!
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:47:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AEB7D0B1-DD2E-11D5-A126-000502DB38F5@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011119105842.A29501@chopin.ai.univie.ac.at>

On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 01:58 , Markus Mottl wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, james woodyatt wrote:
>>
>> If by using monads, on the other hand, I can do something easily that
>> would otherwise be very awkward, then I'm sold.  So far, I have only
>> found examples of how to do things I can already do better with the
>> imperative and object-oriented styles in OCaml.
>
> Objects are useful abstractions for states, whereas monads are
> abstractions of computations (i.e. state transformations, like e.g.
> rewriting steps as above). These two things solve different problems so
> it wouldn't make much sense saying that one is "better" than the other.

That's probably what I needed to hear.  Thanks very much for the advice.

I'll take a look at that FFTW library for more clues about using the 
monadic style.  I hope to discover that I can use monads to address a 
particularly thorny class of problems that seems to arise again and 
again in my work, and which seems not to be well addressed by objects 
alone: cross-cutting concerns in the implementation of network 
application protocols.


--
j h woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>
"...the antidote to misinformation is more information, not less."
                                                      --vinton cerf

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-19 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-16 19:37 [Caml-list] [Q]: Co(ntra)variance and subtyping? Clemens Hintze
2001-11-17 14:18 ` Mark Wotton
2001-11-17 14:55   ` Mark Wotton
2001-11-17 17:50   ` [Caml-list] " Clemens Hintze
2001-11-17 23:17     ` Mark Wotton
2001-11-18  9:16       ` Clemens Hintze
2001-11-18 13:18         ` Alain Frisch
2001-11-19  9:54           ` Remi VANICAT
     [not found]       ` <9t7v4d$gij$1@qrnik.zagroda>
2001-11-18 11:57         ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2001-11-18 13:34 ` [Caml-list] " Andreas Rossberg
2001-11-18 21:22   ` Pixel
2001-11-19  0:33     ` Jacques Garrigue
2001-11-18 22:35       ` David Gurr
2001-11-19  7:24         ` [Caml-list] " Clemens Hintze
2001-11-19 12:03           ` Markus Mottl
2001-11-19  8:29         ` [Caml-list] " Xavier Leroy
2001-11-19 11:03       ` Alain Frisch
2001-11-20  9:58         ` Didier Remy
2001-11-19 11:14       ` Pixel
2001-11-18 22:30   ` [Caml-list] Re: variance, subtyping and monads... oh, my! james woodyatt
2001-11-19  8:11     ` Francois Pottier
2001-11-19  9:02       ` james woodyatt
2001-11-19  9:58         ` Markus Mottl
2001-11-19 20:47           ` james woodyatt [this message]
2001-11-19 12:56       ` Frank Atanassow
2001-11-19 10:39     ` Andreas Rossberg
2001-11-19 12:21       ` Markus Mottl
2001-11-19 13:43         ` [Caml-list] Kylix and OCaml Christophe Raffalli
2001-11-20  2:05           ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2001-11-20  8:51             ` Christophe Raffalli
2001-11-22  1:42               ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2001-11-20 10:00             ` Benjamin Monate
2001-11-20 10:24               ` [Caml-list] [Bug in an interface between C++ and OCAML due to some pointer encapsulation] Sylvain Kerjean
2001-11-20 12:14             ` [Caml-list] Kylix and OCaml Maxence Guesdon

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