From: ben kuin <benkuin@gmail.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] about OcamIL
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:45:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmpC13vv-a6TTe2ljyMfgB_9mB6TCwUcPqOq5H@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100515104348.7c6b4fd2.mle+ocaml@mega-nerd.com>
hi erik,
I highly appreciate your blog, so it hurts me a little but - I disagree:
> The only evidence to support this is the widespead usage of
> Java and C#, but I think that is a language choice rather than
> a conscious decision to use a language that runs on a VM.
>
> People chose Java and C# because they are preferable to
> fundamentally unsafe langauges like C and C++.
English is not my first language, maybe I misunderstand, but what
you're are saying here sound like a complete contradiction to me:
Like you say C and C++ are considered as 'unsafe' languages. But thats
because they offer features, that are not available when programming
for a vm. This has nothing to do with languages, it's a conscious
platform decision.
>> What if ocamlopt would be dropped for a faster ocaml vm?
>
> Why? Even if the Ocaml was able to target a faster VM, there
> are still many people who would chose to generate native
> binaries.
I'd call that a questionable decision. As far as I know, using native
binaries means to open a whole range of potentially uncorrectionable
problems with abi incomptabilities between libraries or with changes
of the underlying os.
As far as I know when you go native you always have to take abi
incompatibility and therefore recompilation into account. For business
apps, that's a showstopper.
> Erik (who uses Ocaml compiled to native binaries for mission
> critical code)
Would you mind to share some infos about your experiences, maybe on your blog?
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-05 12:06 ben kuin
2010-05-05 14:19 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
[not found] ` <i2sc0c8bc8b1005051446q34b07d37xc4021d2b4b23d4e2@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <4BE28085.5090100@lexifi.com>
2010-05-06 10:59 ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 18:58 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-05 19:16 ` Ed Keith
2010-05-05 20:15 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-05 22:13 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-05 22:36 ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 23:13 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-06 10:45 ` ben kuin
2010-05-06 14:38 ` Tim Hanson
2010-05-05 22:18 ` ben kuin
2010-05-06 11:13 ` Ed Keith
2010-05-06 10:43 ` Dmitry Bely
2010-05-06 16:33 ` Peng Zang
2010-05-07 7:26 ` Dmitry Bely
2010-05-07 8:25 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-05-10 21:53 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-11 11:22 ` ben kuin
2010-05-11 16:39 ` Peng Zang
2010-05-11 17:35 ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-11 23:47 ` ben kuin
2010-05-12 1:57 ` Peng Zang
2010-05-12 11:56 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-11 17:38 ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-12 12:28 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-12 13:11 ` forum
2010-05-14 10:40 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 10:58 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-14 11:51 ` forum
2010-05-14 11:51 ` forum
2010-05-16 20:31 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-17 7:53 ` forum
2010-05-19 0:17 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-19 7:46 ` forum
2010-05-19 11:29 ` Michael Ekstrand
2010-05-19 13:27 ` [Caml-list] " Eray Ozkural
2010-05-19 13:35 ` David Allsopp
2010-05-19 15:23 ` Erick Tryzelaar
2010-05-19 16:49 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-19 16:48 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-20 2:03 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 13:55 ` Ed Keith
2010-05-14 15:17 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-14 16:26 ` ben kuin
2010-05-14 16:32 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 20:08 ` ben kuin
2010-05-14 21:28 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-05-14 21:29 ` [Caml-list] " Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 23:51 ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 0:48 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2010-05-14 18:11 ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-14 18:59 ` ben kuin
[not found] ` <AANLkTik-EuZRmX8VKMdAIsO_t8JGHvS6F9TPVLkohed8@mail.gmail.com>
2010-05-14 21:42 ` Fwd: " Raoul Duke
2010-05-14 21:47 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-14 21:57 ` Raoul Duke
2010-05-15 0:16 ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 0:43 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15 2:16 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 21:27 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-16 3:19 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 9:45 ` ben kuin [this message]
2010-05-15 12:07 ` Ed Keith
2010-05-15 12:17 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2010-05-15 13:21 ` ben kuin
2010-05-15 22:18 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15 23:39 ` ben kuin
2010-05-16 3:23 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 13:23 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-15 21:45 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-15 21:44 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-15 22:25 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2010-05-16 2:04 ` Jon Harrop
2010-05-16 3:20 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-05-16 17:50 ` Eray Ozkural
2010-05-16 19:15 ` ben kuin
2010-05-05 21:59 ` ben kuin
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