From: "Mattias Waldau" <mattias.waldau@abc.se>
To: <caml-list@inria.fr>
Cc: <leary@nwlink.com>,
"Jonathan Coupe" <jonathan@meanwhile.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Why is Ocaml better than Java (WAS: [Caml-list] ocaml complexity)
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:05:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AAEBJHFJOIPMMIILCEPBCEBCCMAA.mattias.waldau@abc.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010608024102.A13672@jean>
> How much time and money do development teams spend creating and tracking
> down memory management errors in C and C++ starting on day one? At least
> some of the benefits are immediate and ongoing.
Why this obsession comparing Ocaml with C/C++? C/C++ isn't used out there
except for Linux-development, low-level programming and embedded
development.
No one writes applications using C/C++, they use Java, Visual Basic. Some
open source developers use Python, PHP and similar. Some use Fortran and
Delphi.
Talking about memory management with a programmer using anything else than
C/C++ is a waste of time.
The real questions is how to convince a Java-programmer to start using
Ocaml.
The arguments I can list is:
- speed
- polymorphism, no casting needed (will be solved in next generation of
Java, so this
argument will disappear)
- closures (however can always be programmed using local class with
()-method)
- better typechecking makes higher order functions simple to use (however, I
think that a local class in Java will be as good)
- compact programs (Java programs are very long)
- easy integration with C (easy in VB, I haven't tried it in Java)
Plz help me with more arguments
/mattias
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-08 10:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-07 8:58 [Caml-list] ocaml complexity leary
2001-06-07 18:29 ` Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-08 9:41 ` leary
2001-06-08 10:05 ` Mattias Waldau [this message]
2001-06-08 13:31 ` Why is Ocaml better than Java (WAS: [Caml-list] ocaml complexity) Pierre Weis
2001-06-08 16:37 ` William Chesters
2001-06-08 21:39 ` Brian Rogoff
[not found] ` <Pine.BSF.4.21.0106081430070.27414-100000@shell5.ba.best.co m>
2001-06-08 22:16 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08 12:27 ` [Caml-list] ocaml complexity Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-08 20:22 ` Chris Hecker
2001-06-08 20:31 ` Miles Egan
2001-06-08 22:17 ` Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-08 22:18 ` Miles Egan
2001-06-11 14:05 ` Pierre Weis
2001-06-09 19:41 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-08 22:59 ` David Fox
2001-06-09 0:43 ` leary
2001-06-09 1:09 ` Mark Wotton
2001-06-09 8:36 ` Markus Mottl
2001-06-09 20:58 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-08 22:46 ` leary
2001-06-09 1:18 ` David Fox
2001-06-12 14:17 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-13 15:21 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-06-13 20:32 ` leary
2001-06-13 22:58 ` Johann Höchtl
2001-06-13 21:18 ` John Max Skaller
2001-06-09 22:32 ` Jonathan Coupe
2001-06-11 0:20 ` leary
2001-06-08 10:15 Why is Ocaml better than Java (WAS: [Caml-list] ocaml complexity) Dave Berry
2001-06-11 19:36 Jean-Marc Eber
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