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From: Chet Murthy <chet@watson.ibm.com>
To: caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr
Subject: Re: Class variables in O'Caml
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:03:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9605131903.AA18563@lusitania.watson.ibm.com> (raw)



Jerome Vouillon writes
::On Fri, 10 May 1996, Thorsten Ohl wrote:
::> 
::> >>>>> "Christian" == Christian Boos <boos@gr6.u-strasbg.fr> writes:
::> 
::> Christian> IMO, the use of references is not so unnatural. Together
::> Christian> with structs, it provides a clean way to encapsulate global
::> Christian> state and actions for classes.
::> 
::> Sure, it us possible to do it.  But, IMHO, class variables should be
::> declared in the class and be opaque.  If you put several classes in a
::> module, the use of module wide references makes much less sense.
::> Another hack is to define a sub-module for each class, but that's not
::> nice either ...
::> 
::> I'm just curious if (and why) this syntactic sugar has been left out
::> intentionally.
::
::It has not been left out intentionally. Many object-oriented languages 
::(C++, Objective C and Modula 3, for instance) do not have class variables, 
::so I did not even thought of adding them.
::But I do not plan to implement class variables. I don't want to add too 
::many features, and I don't think they are an important one: in my 
::opinion, they are not commonly used, and they can be easily simulated 
::using references as you noticed.
::
::  Jerome Vouillon

Actually, C++ statics are class variables.  I would not be surprised
if Objective-C had them, too, given that Java has them too. (I haven't
looked at ObjC doce in a long time)

Class variables are valuable syntactic sugar, because they group the
mutable, but shared, state of a class together, in a way which is
difficult for a naive programmer to ignore.

In the commercial world, it seems that such function, while admittedly
syntactic sugar, is important.

I guess what I'm saying is, it would be a really nice thing if O'Caml
has them -- it would make it much easier to sell to the commercial
sector.

--chet--







             reply	other threads:[~1996-05-14  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-05-13 19:03 Chet Murthy [this message]
1996-05-14 22:50 David Gurr
1996-05-15 17:48 ` Roberto Di Cosmo

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