From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: exception safety / RAII ?
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:48:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zmxc99g5.fsf-monnier+gmane.comp.lang.caml.inria@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200503071710.52544.jon@jdh30.plus.com>
>> > I very rarely have problems with this.
>> Very rarely having problems with something can't save it from being
>> a very bad practice. Not explicitly closing your files is (in 99% of the
>> cases) just sloppy coding.
> If we're talking about programs which are expected to run for an arbitrary
> amount of time (servers, the top-level etc.) then yes.
This logic is routinely used in C to simply never call `free' because they
only run for a short time. That's a textbook example of "sloppy coding".
>> Kinda like letting a GC finalizer close your windows: when the effect is
>> visible from outside the process it shouldn't be done in a finalizer.
> The term "visible" in this context is subjective.
I wouldn't call it "subjective", but it is indeed relative to a set of
assumptions about what is "visible" and what isn't. My assumptions here are
generally that CPU-time and swap-space use are "invisible". The CPU-time
part is mostly intrinsic in the fact that I write in a high-level language
on top of a multiuser OS and don't have any direct control over the actual
assembly code generated, nor over the scheduling decisions. The swap-space
part is a basic assumption of a tracing GC. They're not ideal assumptions,
but without them life is a lot more difficult.
In contrast "the content of my file when another NFS client tries to read it
20 seconds after I generated it (and got an ocamltop prompt back indicating
it'd been generated)" is something that I do consider as "externally
visible" because it doesn't make life much more difficult: just close the
file when you're done with it. It's extremely rare that the point in the
code where a file can be closed is not trivial to find.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-09 15:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-05 18:16 Michael Benfield
2005-03-05 18:44 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2005-03-07 0:03 ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-07 1:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-07 2:48 ` [Caml-list] " Brian Hurt
2005-03-07 13:30 ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-07 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-07 17:10 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-08 13:07 ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-08 21:56 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-03-09 13:34 ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-09 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-03-09 16:19 ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-09 22:45 ` [Caml-list] Re: exception safety / RAII Oliver Bandel
2005-03-09 23:42 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-03-10 14:33 ` exception safety / RAII ? Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 16:52 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-11 14:46 ` Michael Walter
2005-03-12 22:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-07 15:21 ` [Caml-list] " Michael Walter
[not found] ` <200503071729.20117.jon@jdh30.plus.com>
2005-03-07 18:47 ` Michael Walter
2005-03-08 1:10 ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-08 22:19 ` Oliver Bandel
2005-03-08 22:53 ` Daniel Yokomizo
2005-03-09 1:21 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-09 13:21 ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-08 11:33 ` [Caml-list] " Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-03-08 12:32 ` Richard Jones
2005-03-08 14:17 ` Michael Walter
2005-03-08 18:28 ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-08 21:34 ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-09 15:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-09 22:30 ` [Caml-list] " Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-03-10 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-08 21:32 ` [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2005-03-07 3:31 ` [Caml-list] " Michael Walter
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=87zmxc99g5.fsf-monnier+gmane.comp.lang.caml.inria@gnu.org \
--to=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
--cc=caml-list@inria.fr \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox