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Subject: [Caml-list] Attn: Development Editor, Latest OCaml Weekly News
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:25:27 +0200 [thread overview]
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Hello
Here is the latest OCaml Weekly News, for the week of August 11 to 18,
2020.
Table of Contents
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Ppx: omp 2.0.0 and next steps
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Ppx: omp 2.0.0 and next steps
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Archive:
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/ppx-omp-2-0-0-and-next-steps/6231/1>
Jérémie Dimino announced
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quick summary:
• ocaml-migrate-parsetree 2.0.0 release
• you should add a upper bound in your dev repos
• ppxlib compatible version coming soon
• ppxlib is now the official ppx library supported by the OCaml
platform
Hi everyone,
As [previously announced], we are [releasing the version 2.0.0 of
ocaml-migrate-parsetree]. At the moment nothing is compatible with the
new version and we will soon release a version of ppxlib that is
compatible with it. If your project depends on
ocaml-migrate-parsetree, you should add a upper bound to your
development repository.
If you plan to use ocaml-migrate-parsetree 2.0.0 directly, please note
however that this is a transitory package. The technology implemented
by ocaml-migrate-parsetree will live on and hopefully find a new home
in the compiler repository proper. However, ocaml-migrate-parsetree as
a standalone project will eventually stop being maintained.
I am also taking the opportunity to announce that *ppxlib is the first
ppx library officially supported by the OCaml platform*, and the one
we recommend all ppx authors to use. It is the library that we plan to
maintain for the long term.
Other libraries such as `ppx_tools' or `ppx_tools_versioned' may
continue to be maintained by open source contributors, however they
will not be maintained by the OCaml platform and will not receive
updates from the platform when new compilers are released. Only ppxlib
will receive updates from the platform.
If you would like to port your project to use ppxlib and are
experiencing difficulties or have any question, please get in touch by
replying to this post or opening a ticket on
<https://github.com/ocaml-ppx/ppxlib>.
The overall plan described in this post is the result of various
discussions and/or collaborative effort between the following people:
@avsm, @ceastlund, @Drup, @gasche, @jeremiedimino, @kit-ty-kate,
@let-def, @NathanReb and @pitag.
[previously announced]
<https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/ocaml-migrate-parsetree-2-0-0/5991>
[releasing the version 2.0.0 of ocaml-migrate-parsetree]
<https://github.com/ocaml/opam-repository/pull/16999>
Next steps
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As soon as the new version of ppxlib is released, we will work towards
our next milestone. As a reminder, our current goal is to setup a ppx
ecosystem that is continously compatible with the trunk of OCaml. To
achieve that goal, we plan to add a stable API called "Astlib" on top
of the compiler libraries. To keep things sustainable on the compiler
side and increase flexibility, Astlib will be minimal and will be
targeted at ppxlib only rather than be a general API aimed at ppx
authors.
The difficulty of this API is that it must expose a stable interface
to the OCaml AST, which is composed of a large collection of data
types. To make it work, we plan to use the technology developed in
ocaml-migrate-parsetree; i.e. whole AST migration functions.
While we eventually want Astlib to live in the compiler repository, we
will initially develop it inside the ppxlib repository. Once it is
ready, we will submit it for inclusion in the compiler. Although, we
will keep a copy inside ppxlib for older versions of the compiler.
We also plan to setup a smooth workflow for compiler developers to
update Astlib when they change the development AST.
Once this is all done, we will be in a situation where the ppx
ecosystem is compatible with the trunk of OCaml at all time. And as a
result, new releases of the compiler will no longer break ppx packages
as long as they limit themselves to the ppxlib API.
Future
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While this work will make the ecosystem compatible with the trunk of
OCaml at all times, it will essentially move the backward
compatibility issue from the compiler to ppxlib.[1] This will already
give us a lot more flexibility as for instance a single version of
ppxlib can be compatible with a wide range of OCaml versions. However,
we recognise that it is not usual to ask a community to rely on an
unstable API.
We made this choice as a trade-off between sustainability and
complexity. Indeed, we want to maintain Astlib and Ppxlib over the
long term and the best way to make things sustainable is to use simple
and clear designs. While we do have solutions in our sleeves that
would provide a fully stable ppx API, these are much more complicated
to maintain and work with.
To mitigate this, we are setting up a Dune based workflow to upgrade
all ppx rewriters at once. So once the system is rolling and if your
ppx rewriters are up to date and using Dune, you should expect to
receive pull requests as we update ppxlib. This last part will take
some time to be fully rolling, so please bear with us :)
In any case, about a year after this new world is fully setup, we will
review the situation and decide whether it is sustainable or whether
we need to go all the way and mint a fully stable ppx API.
Timeline
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• today: ocaml-migrate-parsetree 2.0.0 is being released
• next week: a ppxlib compatible version is released
• December 2020: astlib is ready inside the ppxlib repository
• next OCaml release after that: astlib lives in the compiler
• September 2021: we review the situation and decide what to do next
[1]: At any given time the API of ppxlib refer to a single version of
the OCaml AST. In order to allow OCaml users to enjoy both ppx
rewriters and new language features, the version of the AST selected
by ppxlib needs to be bumped after each release of the compiler, which
is a breaking change that has the potential to break several ppx
packages. As a result, ppx packages will still need to be regularly
updated in order to stay compatible with the latest version of ppxlib.
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