* Re: [Caml-list] Compile cameleon on debian
@ 2002-10-09 9:32 Yang Shouxun
2002-10-09 11:16 ` Dimitri Ara
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From: Yang Shouxun @ 2002-10-09 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Jérôme Marant wrote:
> En réponse à Sven LUTHER <luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>:
>
>>You are aware that Jerome Marant and Stefano Zachiro are packaging
>>cameleon for debian. Read the thread started on :
Yes, I was aware of that, only it's quite some now so that I attempted
to compile it myself.
> In order to compile Cameleon, you need the _compiled_ OCaml sources :
I thought it's enough to have the ocaml-source installed. :(
I have ocaml-3.0.6 unzipped at ../ocaml-3.0.6. So I cd to that
directory, "./configure" and "make world opt". Then I switch back to
cameleon-1.1, which is cleanly gunzipped, and do the following:
./configure --includedir ../ocaml-3.0.6
make depend
make
I get all the same errors. :(
I still don't know what I've done wrong.
> FYI, The debian packages are ready and being tested at the momemt.
> They're going to be release RSN.
Even if I can compile cameleon myself, I prefer to the debian packages.
That would be great! Thanks.
shouxun
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* [Caml-list] Kinds of threads
@ 2002-09-30 13:46 Alessandro Baretta
2002-09-30 15:18 ` [Caml-list] " Michaël Grünewald
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From: Alessandro Baretta @ 2002-09-30 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ocaml
The docs say that there are two kinds of threads in O'Caml:
Ocaml bytecode threads and POSIX threads, and that it is
possible to select which implementation to use at compiler
build time. Two questions: first, what is the implementation
chosen in the ocaml RPM distribution; second, why must one
choose one implementation at compiler build time? Why not
use a compiler switch such as --posix-threads as opposed to
--caml-threads?
Alex
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* [Caml-list] Re: Kinds of threads
2002-09-30 13:46 [Caml-list] Kinds of threads Alessandro Baretta
@ 2002-09-30 15:18 ` Michaël Grünewald
2002-10-01 7:51 ` Alessandro Baretta
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From: Michaël Grünewald @ 2002-09-30 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Alessandro Baretta <alex@baretta.com> writes:
> The docs say that there are two kinds of threads in O'Caml: Ocaml
> bytecode threads and POSIX threads, and that it is possible to select
> which implementation to use at compiler build time. Two questions:
> first, what is the implementation chosen in the ocaml RPM distribution;
> second, why must one choose one implementation at compiler build time?
> Why not use a compiler switch such as --posix-threads as opposed to
> --caml-threads?
Depending of the platform, POSIX threads may not or badly
available. Emulation can be set up, either by coercing existing thread
capabilities to the POSIX interface, or by implementing a POSIX thread
library, using processes and interprocesses communications to do the job (i
have been told it was the way with linux, please confirm or infirm it).
Maybe the switch is here because it is better to use POSIX threads when they
are well supported by the system (e.g. BSDs); but the caml thread emulation
may give better results in (some) other cases.
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* Re: [Caml-list] Re: Kinds of threads
2002-09-30 15:18 ` [Caml-list] " Michaël Grünewald
@ 2002-10-01 7:51 ` Alessandro Baretta
2002-10-01 9:13 ` Benjamin Monate
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From: Alessandro Baretta @ 2002-10-01 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michaël Grünewald; +Cc: caml-list
Michaël Grünewald wrote:
> Alessandro Baretta <alex@baretta.com> writes:
>
>
>>The docs say that there are two kinds of threads in O'Caml: Ocaml
>>bytecode threads and POSIX threads, and that it is possible to select
>>which implementation to use at compiler build time. Two questions:
>>first, what is the implementation chosen in the ocaml RPM distribution;
>>second, why must one choose one implementation at compiler build time?
>>Why not use a compiler switch such as --posix-threads as opposed to
>>--caml-threads?
>
>
> Depending of the platform, POSIX threads may not or badly
> available. Emulation can be set up, either by coercing existing thread
> capabilities to the POSIX interface, or by implementing a POSIX thread
> library, using processes and interprocesses communications to do the job (i
> have been told it was the way with linux, please confirm or infirm it).
I don't really know what you mean by "emulation", but, yes,
LinuxThreads is POSIX-compliant extension to glibc which
instantiates kernel-level processes.
> Maybe the switch is here because it is better to use POSIX threads when they
> are well supported by the system (e.g. BSDs); but the caml thread emulation
> may give better results in (some) other cases.
Caml threads are probably the only way to go on Windows,
since the Win32 API is not POSIX compliant.
Still, this does not answer my question: what is the
threading style chosen for the official RPM distribution of
O'Caml? Let me see if I can figure this out by myself...
Alex
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* Re: [Caml-list] Re: Kinds of threads
2002-10-01 7:51 ` Alessandro Baretta
@ 2002-10-01 9:13 ` Benjamin Monate
2002-10-08 11:51 ` [Caml-list] Compile cameleon on debian Yang Shouxun
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From: Benjamin Monate @ 2002-10-01 9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alessandro Baretta; +Cc: caml-list
On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 09:51:08 +0200
Alessandro Baretta <alex@baretta.com> wrote:
> Still, this does not answer my question: what is the
> threading style chosen for the official RPM distribution of
> O'Caml? Let me see if I can figure this out by myself...
>
Here is a small test to detect what kind of threads you have:
====================================================================
(* Compile with ocamlc -o threadtest -thread unix.cma threads.cma
threadtest.ml *) open Thread
let f () = while true do () done
let i = create f ()
let _ =
try
kill i;
print_string "Bytecode threads available\n"
with Invalid_argument "Thread.kill: not implemented"
-> print_string "Native threads available\n"
====================================================================
Hope this helps.
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2002-10-01 9:13 ` Benjamin Monate
@ 2002-10-08 11:51 ` Yang Shouxun
2002-10-09 6:41 ` Sven LUTHER
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From: Yang Shouxun @ 2002-10-08 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Hi,
Is there anybody successfully compiling Cameleon 1.1 on Debian?
I'm using Debian unstable and have installed almost all the latest ocaml
related packages.
I followed the instructions in the INSTALL file, with "./configure
--include-dir /usr/lib/ocaml". It complained that "pa_zog.cma" not in
the search path. I cd to zoggy subdirectory and "make pa_zog.cma" to
resolve the problem. Other errors I don't know how to fix easily. They
include "Unbound value C.string" in "omom_gui_variables.ml", "Unbound
module Cam_plug" when compile "utils.ml".
That's the same with the snapshot version.
Any comments are welcome!
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* Re: [Caml-list] Compile cameleon on debian
2002-10-08 11:51 ` [Caml-list] Compile cameleon on debian Yang Shouxun
@ 2002-10-09 6:41 ` Sven LUTHER
2002-10-09 8:14 ` Jérôme Marant
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From: Sven LUTHER @ 2002-10-09 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yang Shouxun; +Cc: caml-list
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:51:19PM +0800, Yang Shouxun wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there anybody successfully compiling Cameleon 1.1 on Debian?
>
> I'm using Debian unstable and have installed almost all the latest ocaml
> related packages.
You are aware that Jerome Marant and Stefano Zachiro are packaging
cameleon for debian. Read the thread started on :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-ocaml-maint/2002/debian-ocaml-maint-200209/msg00138.html
To see more details about the state of it.
> I followed the instructions in the INSTALL file, with "./configure
> --include-dir /usr/lib/ocaml". It complained that "pa_zog.cma" not in
> the search path. I cd to zoggy subdirectory and "make pa_zog.cma" to
> resolve the problem. Other errors I don't know how to fix easily. They
> include "Unbound value C.string" in "omom_gui_variables.ml", "Unbound
> module Cam_plug" when compile "utils.ml".
>
> That's the same with the snapshot version.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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* Re: [Caml-list] Compile cameleon on debian
2002-10-09 6:41 ` Sven LUTHER
@ 2002-10-09 8:14 ` Jérôme Marant
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From: Jérôme Marant @ 2002-10-09 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yang Shouxun, caml-list
En réponse à Sven LUTHER <luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:51:19PM +0800, Yang Shouxun wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there anybody successfully compiling Cameleon 1.1 on Debian?
> >
> > I'm using Debian unstable and have installed almost all the latest
> ocaml
> > related packages.
>
> You are aware that Jerome Marant and Stefano Zachiro are packaging
> cameleon for debian. Read the thread started on :
>
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-ocaml-maint/2002/debian-ocaml-maint-200209/msg00138.html
>
> To see more details about the state of it.
Yang,
In order to compile Cameleon, you need the _compiled_ OCaml sources :
cameleon requires some files that are not installed in the OCaml
distribution.
So, grab the ocaml sources, compile them (make world opt) and
then set properly the path to these OCaml sources to the
Cameleon configure script.
FYI, The debian packages are ready and being tested at the momemt.
They're going to be release RSN.
Cheers,
--
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<jerome.marant@free.fr>
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