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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Mehdi Dogguy <mehdi@dogguy.org>
Cc: Benedikt Meurer <benedikt.meurer@googlemail.com>,
	Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>,
	caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:17:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8762hlizus.fsf@frosties.localnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE5F173.1080607@dogguy.org> (Mehdi Dogguy's message of "Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:20:03 +0100")

Mehdi Dogguy <mehdi@dogguy.org> writes:

> On 12/12/2011 11:59 AM, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:21 , Xavier Leroy wrote:
>> 
>>> - It complicates the lives of OCaml users, packagers, and
>>> 3rd-party library developers: what version should they use?  what
>>> will be the basis for the packagers's distribution-specific
>>> patches?  what happens if a library is compatible with one version
>>> but not the other?  what if the community effort runs out of steam
>>> in a few years?
>> 
>> If we can adopt the eglibc model, then the community thing will be 
>> the version shipped by distributions, i.e. the community thing is the
>> OCaml for distributions/packagers, not an alternative to the official
>> version. That way we do no longer need to maintain specific patches /
>> versions for Debian, Red Hat, MacPorts, etc. This ensures that
>> versions are compatible across different distributions (because they
>> do no longer need to maintain their own set of patches).
>> 
>
> No, distributions won't start shipping the community distribution just
> because it exists. I cannot speak for Fedora (and others), but
> Debian/Ubuntu won't switch to the community distribution that easily. In
> fact, it may appear as a seperate source package at some point but won't
> replace INRIA's ocaml in Debian.

That is probably what they said about eglibc too in the beginning. Now
eglibc is used in Debian/Ubuntu and is (or because it is) a great
success.

Obviously nobody is going to say: Yes, lets start this project, we will
ship it right away. It first has to proof itself. And first adopters
will be those that have the most problems with the standard ocaml.

MfG
        Goswin

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-12 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-08  9:10 Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-08  9:54 ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-08 10:28   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-08 10:46     ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-08 11:08       ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-08 16:42       ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-08 10:47     ` ivan chollet
2011-12-08 14:07       ` oliver
2011-12-08 11:11     ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2011-12-08 18:18       ` Török Edwin
2011-12-09 21:42         ` oliver
2011-12-08 10:16 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-08 11:07 ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-09  2:11 ` Jacques Garrigue
2011-12-09 10:37   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-09 11:03     ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-09 11:17       ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2011-12-09 11:50         ` Jonathan Protzenko
2011-12-09 12:36           ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-09 23:22         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-09 22:33       ` oliver
2011-12-09 14:24     ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-09 17:00       ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-09 17:36         ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-09 17:45           ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-09 23:24             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-10  9:31               ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-10 14:45 ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-10 15:58   ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-12 10:21     ` Xavier Leroy
2011-12-12 10:59       ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-12 12:20         ` Mehdi Dogguy
2011-12-12 15:17           ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2011-12-19  4:09           ` Romain Beauxis
2011-12-19 17:35             ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-12 12:57         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-10 17:06   ` Török Edwin
2011-12-10 18:28   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-10 18:34     ` Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-10 19:10       ` Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-10 20:55         ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-10 21:40           ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/p5 type reflection [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-10 23:34             ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11  0:47               ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/p5 type reflection [ Wojciech Meyer
2011-12-11 11:19                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 18:14                   ` Jérémie Dimino
2011-12-11  9:04               ` [Caml-list] Camlp4/p5 type reflection [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-11  9:36                 ` Török Edwin
2011-12-11 10:29                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 11:23                   ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-11 11:38                     ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 10:20               ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-12-11 10:47                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 13:27               ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-11 13:35                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2011-12-11 13:42                   ` Alain Frisch
2011-12-11 13:36                 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2011-12-11 13:46                 ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-10 23:28   ` [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Jesper Louis Andersen
2011-12-11 11:02     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-13 19:36       ` oliver
2011-12-14 12:13         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-12-16 10:03           ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-11 13:33   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-12-11 13:59     ` [Caml-list] Community distribution [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-12 17:48   ` [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-13 20:39     ` [Caml-list] New experimental ARM backend [was: OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again)] Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-14  9:18       ` Mark Shinwell
2011-12-14 21:51         ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 11:57       ` [Caml-list] " Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 13:08         ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 14:50           ` Alexandre Pilkiewicz
2011-12-18 16:42             ` Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 17:23           ` Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-21 10:11             ` [Caml-list] " Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-18 13:16         ` [Caml-list] " Benedikt Meurer
2011-12-17 18:36   ` [Caml-list] OCaml maintenance status / community fork (again) Stéphane Glondu
2011-12-18  4:25     ` Till Varoquaux

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