From: Philippe Strauss <philou@philou.ch>
To: Hugo Ferreira <hmf@inescporto.pt>
Cc: Fabrice Le Fessant <Fabrice.Le_fessant@inria.fr>,
Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>,
caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Efficient OCaml multicore -- roadmap?
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:27:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7E7486ED-A8E7-478F-B39E-80C45A614CE8@philou.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D8CB859.9040709@inescporto.pt>
Le 25 mars 2011 à 16:44, Hugo Ferreira a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Don't mean to drag this on but...
>
> On 03/25/2011 01:10 PM, Fabrice Le Fessant wrote:
>> On 03/25/2011 01:58 PM, Hugo Ferreira wrote:
>>>>> Assuming all shared data structures are immutable is it possible to:
>>
>> Well, Java has fully multi-threaded garbage collection, so there is no
>> point that it is possible to do it.
>>
>> The problem is that it has a cost, and the cost is a huge slowdown on
>> mono-threaded programs. Since most OCaml programs are mono-threaded, and
>> only few programs would really benefit from multi-threading, we are
>> trying to come up with a solution that would satisfy both worlds.
>> Mono-threaded programs would still run as fast (possibly using a
>> non-reentrant version of the runtime, to avoid the cost of TLS if it is
>> visible), and multi-threaded programs can be written easily.
>>
>
> Personally I think this is an "impossible" feat.
> Why not simply allow for the existence of two GC's and let
> the programmer select the one that is best for the application?
>
I second this one.
Seems GC and caml are heavily intricated, but modularizing this part seems a future proof investment in effort.
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2011-03-24 23:13 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 0:23 ` [Caml-list] " Sylvain Le Gall
2011-03-25 9:55 ` [Caml-list] " Alain Frisch
2011-03-25 11:44 ` Gerd Stolpmann
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2011-03-25 10:23 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 12:07 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-16 12:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 10:51 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 12:25 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-25 12:58 ` Hugo Ferreira
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2011-03-25 13:10 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 13:41 ` Dario Teixeira
2011-03-30 18:12 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 15:44 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 18:24 ` Martin Jambon
2011-03-25 19:19 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-25 20:26 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-26 9:11 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-03-26 10:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-03-30 16:56 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 19:24 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-04-20 21:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-19 9:57 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-19 10:05 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-19 20:26 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-20 7:59 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 12:30 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 12:53 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-20 13:22 ` Markus Mottl
2011-04-20 14:00 ` Edgar Friendly
2011-04-19 22:49 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-30 17:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 19:23 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:05 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-20 23:00 ` Jon Harrop
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2011-04-21 7:48 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-04-21 8:35 ` Hugo Ferreira
2011-04-23 17:32 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-21 9:09 ` Alain Frisch
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2011-04-21 19:53 ` Hezekiah M. Carty
2011-04-22 8:34 ` Alain Frisch
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2011-04-22 8:06 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-04-22 9:11 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-23 10:17 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-23 13:47 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-23 17:39 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-23 20:18 ` Alexy Khrabrov
2011-04-23 21:18 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-24 0:33 ` Eray Ozkural
2011-04-28 14:42 ` orbitz
2011-04-23 19:02 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-22 9:44 ` Vincent Aravantinos
2011-04-21 10:09 ` Philippe Strauss
2011-04-23 17:44 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-23 17:05 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-20 20:30 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-20 23:33 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-25 20:27 ` Philippe Strauss [this message]
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2011-04-20 9:25 ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2011-03-25 18:45 ` Andrei Formiga
2011-03-30 17:00 ` Jon Harrop
2011-04-13 3:36 ` Lucas Dixon
2011-04-13 13:01 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-04-13 13:09 ` Lucas Dixon
2011-04-13 23:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2011-04-16 13:54 ` Jon Harrop
2011-03-24 13:44 Alexy Khrabrov
2011-03-24 14:57 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:03 ` Joel Reymont
2011-03-24 15:28 ` Guillaume Yziquel
2011-03-24 15:48 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-24 15:38 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-03-25 19:49 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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