From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1A3BBBC for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:42:48 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj8BAMdX9UhRZ90xlGdsb2JhbACKBIlbAQEBAQkLCgcPBa0JgWs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,415,1220220000"; d="scan'208";a="30358993" Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.49]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 15 Oct 2008 11:42:48 +0200 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20081015094246.YAFI10791.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:42:46 +0100 Received: from romulus.metastack.com ([81.102.132.77]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20081015094246.TOKD19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@romulus.metastack.com> for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:42:46 +0100 Received: from countertenor ([212.170.100.131]) (authenticated bits=0) by romulus.metastack.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9F9geXK003595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:42:44 +0100 From: "David Allsopp" To: References: <200810131935.53365.kuba@mareimbrium.org><666572260810140407w121d5bafm43993737df5e2c0c@mail.gmail.com> <200810141741.17372.kuba@mareimbrium.org> Subject: RE: Re : [Caml-list] Re: Re : Road to native windows OCaml... Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:42:41 +0200 Organization: MetaStack Solutions Ltd. Message-ID: <599D22A112D94CC084EB04693A3846EF@countertenor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckuRZjscQXPOLflTIS0t+5ca/LN5gAY7siA In-Reply-To: <200810141741.17372.kuba@mareimbrium.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 81.102.132.74 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Q5vZcFgAt2IA:10 a=GN8zR65bd4IA:10 a=axTcmdqEYsgIC35CTTIA:9 a=UWIrgQfpWpg9baWOEXy07Kj2f78A:4 a=-wnwXlR73-0A:10 X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 recompiled:01 cygwin:01 cygwin:01 ocaml:01 unices:01 mingw:01 bytecode:01 bytecode:01 mingw:01 wrote:01 unix:01 unix:01 msvc:01 msvc:01 Kuba Ober wrote: > > As for terminal slowness, my computer boots in 16 seconds under linux. > > I recompiled my kernel yesterday and activated PRINTK_TIME/Show timing > > information on printks, it gives you the time a kernel message was > > emitted, related to startup. At the end of the boot, the kernel was > > giving times 3 seconds better than an independent chronometer. There > > had been enough things to write on the console for message to take 3 > > seconds to be displayed. Displaying on a terminal is slooow > > everywhere, not just windows. > > > > Also, I don't think cygwin is bad. I just think it is not the > > appropriate answer for most of us. > > Cygwin is an answer if you can't code natively. If you insist on > using Unix mindset, then sure Cygwin is easiest. I don't see a problem > with OCaml doing things the Windows way on Windows, and Unix way on > Unices. Not quite clear what you mean by this - are you referring to the Cygwin *port* of OCaml or the MinGW port *built* in Cygwin? (though I'm aware that you don't have to use Cygwin to build this any more) While it's not a major issue (especially once OCaml 3.11 comes along and just about everything that can be done in bytecode is possible in native code...), the bytecode interpreter in the MSVC port is considerably slower than in the MinGW port (as documented in the readme) which is the reason I chose it years ago over MSVC... That said, I'd quite like to take advantage of my shiny new x64 quad-core Dell so perhaps it is time to switch 8-) David