From: Alain Frisch <alain.frisch@lexifi.com>
To: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>,
Andreas Rossberg <rossberg@mpi-sws.org>
Cc: caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Newbie comment on constructor syntax
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:06:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564118FD.5050804@lexifi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPFanBFze3PvO2JTSWByJUOyoYi-heb-pikQeHSsL_jKd3JecA@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/11/2015 22:11, Gabriel Scherer wrote:
> Yes, it is already problematic, and in fact I'm personally not
> completely convinced by this feature -- Alain it "reduces bad
> surprises for beginners", but I suspect that adding more magic in this
> place could not actually help that much -- at least the current
> semantic model is simple.
Just to illustrate that the confusion related to n-ary constructors is real:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3940345/defining-exceptions-with-tuple-as-argument
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10306733/ocaml-constructor-unpacking
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9774671/using-a-variant-type-constructor-with-just-one-tuple-value
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14818866/int-int-vs-int-int-in-ocaml-sum-type
Now, it's not completely clear that the current proposal is enough to
reduce significantly the confusion; one could argue that by hiding the
difference between n-ary constructors and constructors with tuple
arguments at the value level, one makes it harder for beginners to get
the right mental model required to understand type inclusion ("type s =
int * int;; type t = A of s" vs "type t = A of int * int").
-- Alain
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-09 22:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-06 9:33 Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-06 10:04 ` Nicolas Ojeda Bar
2015-11-06 10:31 ` Francois Berenger
2015-11-06 12:20 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-06 12:34 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-11-06 13:09 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-06 14:10 ` Ashish Agarwal
2015-11-06 15:19 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-06 15:21 ` Ashish Agarwal
2015-11-21 17:24 ` [Caml-list] Notation for currying Hendrik Boom
2015-11-21 17:41 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-11-21 18:05 ` David Rajchenbach-Teller
2015-11-21 18:55 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-11-06 12:29 ` [Caml-list] Newbie comment on constructor syntax Jonas Jensen
2015-11-06 12:46 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-06 12:54 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-11-08 21:16 ` Florian Weimer
2015-11-08 22:50 ` Norman Hardy
2015-11-09 6:27 ` Florian Weimer
2015-11-09 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-09 8:09 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-09 10:00 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-11-09 10:16 ` Alain Frisch
2015-11-09 10:35 ` Andreas Rossberg
2015-11-09 12:28 ` Alain Frisch
2015-11-09 17:33 ` Alain Frisch
2015-11-09 18:08 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-11-09 18:16 ` Andreas Rossberg
2015-11-09 21:11 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-11-09 22:06 ` Alain Frisch [this message]
2015-11-09 22:27 ` Andreas Rossberg
2015-11-09 22:57 ` Jeremy Yallop
2015-11-10 0:11 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-11-10 8:27 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-10 10:25 ` Romain Bardou
2015-11-10 10:44 ` Alain Frisch
2015-11-10 10:55 ` Romain Bardou
2015-11-10 13:17 ` Alain Frisch
2015-11-10 13:41 ` Romain Bardou
2015-11-10 14:01 ` Alain Frisch
2015-11-13 15:36 ` Romain Bardou
2015-11-10 11:17 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-10 14:11 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-11-10 14:40 ` immanuel litzroth
2015-11-10 15:30 ` Soegtrop, Michael
2015-11-10 17:27 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2015-11-09 20:32 ` Alain Frisch
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