From: octachron <octa@polychoron.fr>
To: "Daniel Bünzli" <daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch>
Cc: Nils Becker <nils.becker@bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de>,
Caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] destructive local opens
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:59:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BFAC17.3050406@polychoron.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2C582E7B7CD34029998882AA66299107@erratique.ch>
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Le 08/03/15 18:51, Daniel Bünzli a écrit :
> 1. Given a M.( * ) without warning the * may be the one of M or the one in scope. Ambiguous, can't be resolved locally.
>
> 2. Given a M.( id ) without warning, if [id] is in scope I*know* this [id] is being used. If it's not I know M.id is being used. No ambiguity, can be resolved locally.
>
> If you allow each identifier in a module to sport an @shadow annotation you lose 2. which I find a very valuable property. Without it, given that identifiers are much more widespread than operators, we get a much more ambiguous language.
It is a very valid point. However, I would argue that 1. and 2. are
transformed to
1. Given a M.( [edsl_keyword] ) is the one of M. If I know the EDSL
keywords, there is no ambiguity.
2. Given a M.( non_keyword ) without warning, if [non_keyword] is in
scope then [non_keyword] is
being used. Otherwise, [M.non_keyword] is being used. No global ambiguity.
This approach, contrarily to yours, has a major disadvantage: its relies
on a tacit agreement on the
EDSL keywords. At the same time, it allows EDSL authors to tailor the
warnings to the EDSL
context. If the keyword list is small/sensible enough, it might result
in better warnings.
But yes, implicit agreements are clearly more brittle than broad rules.
A (over?)complicated
solution might be to add module alias annotation in order to modify
shadow annotations locally
(e.g. " module N = M [@@only_shadow "+"] ").
Regards,
octachron.
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-03 13:39 Nils Becker
2015-08-03 13:43 ` Thomas Refis
2015-08-03 13:45 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 13:47 ` Daniel Bünzli
[not found] ` <55BF75F6.1040006@bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de>
2015-08-03 14:24 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 14:37 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-03 14:43 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 15:10 ` octachron
2015-08-03 15:22 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 16:13 ` octachron
2015-08-03 16:51 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-03 17:18 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-03 17:59 ` octachron [this message]
2015-08-06 13:23 ` RE : " moreno pedro
2015-08-04 6:51 ` Petter Urkedal
2015-08-04 9:33 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-05 6:40 ` Petter A. Urkedal
2015-08-05 10:16 ` David Allsopp
2015-08-06 9:35 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-04 13:50 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-04 9:26 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-04 9:38 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-04 12:26 ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 13:12 ` David Allsopp
2015-08-04 13:17 ` Jeremy Yallop
2015-08-04 13:54 ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 15:25 ` Drup
2015-08-04 22:22 ` vrotaru.md
2015-08-04 22:55 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-05 4:52 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-04 13:14 ` Ivan Gotovchits
2015-08-14 10:55 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-14 11:28 ` Drup
2015-08-18 11:11 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-18 12:52 ` David Allsopp
2015-08-18 13:00 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-18 22:26 ` Anthony Tavener
2015-08-19 13:55 ` Oleg
2015-08-19 14:13 ` John Whitington
2015-08-19 15:47 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-19 15:52 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-19 18:09 ` Anthony Tavener
2015-08-19 15:55 ` Simon Cruanes
2015-08-19 16:42 ` Arthur Wendling
2015-08-19 21:15 ` octachron
2015-08-20 8:06 ` Romain Bardou
2015-08-20 17:03 ` Yotam Barnoy
2015-08-20 19:19 ` Erkki Seppala
2015-08-06 9:23 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-06 9:21 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-06 10:19 ` Daniel Bünzli
2015-08-06 13:36 ` Hendrik Boom
2015-08-14 10:57 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2015-08-17 10:17 Nils Becker
2015-08-17 14:26 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-17 15:11 ` Nils Becker
2015-08-17 15:17 ` Drup
2015-08-17 15:18 ` Gabriel Scherer
2015-08-17 18:31 ` Hendrik Boom
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