From: Francois Berenger <berenger@riken.jp>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Library installation procedure (for use with OPAM)?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:12:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A66A95.2060809@riken.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN=ouMSoV3vEocR8FRrhhoaTFrS9Gb31=Gm7azmWWoKo=q3asQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/10/2013 06:36 AM, Anthony Tavener wrote:
> Thanks for the input, everyone! I see there's not quite one-true-way.
> This was part of my confusion when I tried searches and looking at
> existing packages. It helps to know that OCamlMakefile or ocamlbuild use
> ocamlfind, but hide this detail. From my perspective when this is hidden
> it just looks like there are even more packaging mechanisms.
>
> I can understand Daniel's tact: choose one sensible method. This helps
> to force an evolution rather than building up cruft. Certainly making a
> META file along with descr/opam/url is somewhat redundant. Isn't it?
>
> For now though, I'll do my install steps with ocamlfind using a META file.
OASIS can automatically generate the META file for you, if I remember well.
> It wasn't clear to me that ocamlfind is appropriate for installation, or
> even how you would use it. Searching, I mostly get matches for using
> ocamlfind to install existing packages, not make something installable.
> The "install" subsection of ocamlfind really gives the impression of an
> end-user tool, not for a library creator. References are made to the
> META file but no description of this file.
>
> Searching for the META file related to OCaml doesn't fare too well
> either. Then I realized "man META" actually gives me exactly what I was
> looking for. I didn't expect that, since I'd expect other systems could
> have a configuration file called META.
>
> Anyway, thanks! If there isn't an explanation of packaging libraries
> somewhere, maybe I'll make a blog post: "How to share your library".
> It's the kind of thing which might seem like nothing once you know it.
>
> -Tony
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Bünzli
> <daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch <mailto:daniel.buenzli@erratique.ch>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Le lundi, 9 décembre 2013 à 21:22, Stéphane Glondu a écrit :
>
> > Yes, but the existing stuff too. And the packaging work is
> (should be)
> > mainly adding metadata and integrating with the other packages,
> which is
> > hardly automatable. What you are talking about is package building,
> > which can already be automated with the standard "./configure &&
> make &&
> > sudo make install" interface.
>
> Why not but then provide me *convenient and easily understandable*
> tools that allow me to implement this interface in a reliable way. I
> don't want to replicate install logic in my twelve and growing
> packages, I used to do that but it's too costly in terms of
> maintenance. I now found a way of delegating the install logic to a
> tool in what I suppose is the main distribution channel for my
> packages (and that shouldn't be too hard for other distribution
> channels to use), I'm not going back unless something better and as
> convenient emerges.
>
> > > > http://xkcd.com/927/
> > > So what's your proposal then ?
> >
> > I am not proposing anything new. You are.
>
> Joke for joke. Besides I'm not proposing anything, I responded to
> the original poster's question on how I proceed to install libraries
> with OPAM.
>
> Best,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
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Francois Berenger.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 1:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-08 20:55 Anthony Tavener
2013-12-09 9:23 ` Stéphane Glondu
2013-12-09 11:13 ` John Whitington
2013-12-09 15:04 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-12-09 15:23 ` Sebastien Mondet
2013-12-09 15:57 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-12-09 16:39 ` Sebastien Mondet
2013-12-09 17:37 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-12-09 19:41 ` Stéphane Glondu
2013-12-09 20:04 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-12-09 20:22 ` Stéphane Glondu
2013-12-09 21:04 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-12-09 21:36 ` Anthony Tavener
2013-12-10 1:12 ` Francois Berenger [this message]
2013-12-10 14:50 ` Daniel Bünzli
2013-12-10 16:49 ` [Caml-list] [ANN] opam-installer (beta) (was Re: Library installation procedure (for use with OPAM)?) Louis Gesbert
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