From: Jean-Marc Alliot <jean-marc.alliot@irit.fr>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Case study in optimization: porting a compiler from OCaml to F#
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:47:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51485E77.9010502@irit.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <037b01ce2307$d54e6130$7feb2390$@ffconsultancy.com>
We have been using Parmap and are quite happy with it (we use it as an
alternative to the Ocaml/MPI implementation when MPI is not strictly
required), with excellent scalability on our applications (even if we
had to change from time to time a little bit or our code, regarding the
fact that Parmap does not allow "in place" modifications).
Le 17/03/2013 13:06, Jon Harrop a écrit :
> What happens if the inner function returns results via mutation? I
> assume you must rearrange the code to return all results explicitly
> and they will then be deep copied (which destroys scalability due to
> limited shared memory bandwidth on multicores).
As fas as I can tell there is no "copy" of any form. Parmap only
collects results. If you do "in place" modifications, they are lost.
Parmap is, in a way, "functional"...
> Does it do load balancing? I assume not given that ncores is hardcoded.
There is an optional argument (chunksize) to manually control load
balancing.
> Does a parmap with ncores=4 inside a parmap with ncores=4 create 16
> processes? Does it deep copy inputs and/or outputs?
Regarding outputs, Parmap uses a shared memory area and
Marshal/Unmarshal to collect outputs. There is an optimization done when
array of floats are returned, as marshalling is not used, thus reducing
the overhead.
> I assume so, at least for outputs, because you cannot write results
> in-place without a shared mutable heap. Does parmap have a large
> constant overhead? I assume so if it is forking processes.
Well, it depends on what you call "large constant overhead". Forking is
not a so expensive primitive on modern Unix systems, because pages are
only copied when written-to (copy-on-write).
> Another solution is to prefork and explicitly communicate all inputs
> using message passing but this is equally problematic. You have to
> rearrange the code. Deep copying inputs also destroys scalability.
> Cheers, Jon.
There is an article describing the implementation (I think it is also
available online):
A “minimal disruption” skeleton experiment: seamless map & reduce
embedding in OCaml
M. Danelutto, R. Di Cosmo
Procedia Computer Science 9 ( 2012 ) 1837 – 1846
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-19 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-13 17:04 Jon Harrop
2013-03-13 17:14 ` julien verlaguet
2013-03-13 19:19 ` Jon Harrop
2013-03-13 19:28 ` oliver
2013-03-14 15:05 ` oliver
2013-03-14 15:15 ` oliver
2013-03-15 13:34 ` Pierre-Alexandre Voye
2013-03-17 12:06 ` Jon Harrop
2013-03-19 1:50 ` Francois Berenger
2013-03-20 20:54 ` Jon Harrop
2013-03-20 22:35 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-03-21 4:13 ` Mike Lin
2013-03-21 7:35 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-03-21 20:07 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-03-19 12:47 ` Jean-Marc Alliot [this message]
2013-03-20 9:32 ` Roberto Di Cosmo
2013-03-19 1:37 ` Francois Berenger
2013-03-13 17:55 ` Alain Frisch
2013-03-13 19:44 ` Jon Harrop
2013-03-13 21:02 ` Alain Frisch
2013-03-13 18:27 ` oliver
2013-03-13 20:00 ` Jon Harrop
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