From: Hongbo Zhang <bobzhang1988@gmail.com>
To: Wojciech Meyer <wojciech.meyer@googlemail.com>
Cc: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>,
Anil Madhavapeddy <Anil@recoil.org>,
caml users <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] Re: working %.pp.ml target with ocamfind/ocamlbuild
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:08:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <504DD828.3000208@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wfmx0zupku.fsf@gmail.com>
Greetings,
On 9/9/12 6:29 PM, Wojciech Meyer wrote:
> Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> This is useful for debugging purposes, and for some (minor) modes of
>> use of Camlp4. However, for most Camlp4 development, this has the
>> severe downside of losing the location information of the original
>> file, if I understand correctly. This means that you don't want to use
>> it as a transparent step towards compilation, but only in exceptional
>> situations where the developers will re-edit the output code.
>
> I think I've to say I disagree it's not useful, when I'm developing a
> syntax extension on top of Camlp4 I really want to see the generated
> code. Moreover to understand some of the more complicated syntax
> extensions like type_conv, deriving, FoldGenerator I need to look at the
> expanded code to understand how to use it - last time I hit the same
Yes, it's damn useful not only for bootstrapping, but also for
developing to locate type errors. But there's something wrong with
Camlp4's printer, it has *4* printers in total, writing a printer for an
Ast which has no backend is totally useless. In my branch of camlp4, *I
removed all those 4 printers and using tools/pprintast.ml* in ocaml's
compiler source tree(with some my own bug fixes), and it works very well.
Btw, are you in ICFP? we could have a talk about Camlp4 :-)
> problem it was actually 'deriving-ocsigen' when I needed to implement my
> own Show module - it's just much faster to see what's being generated
> for the usual case, then trying to figure out from the recipe in the
> documentation. Otherwise for bootstrapping purposes, you might want to
> pre-generate some code too and put into the repository.
>
> --
> Wojciech Meyer
> http://danmey.org
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-10 12:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-30 23:19 [Caml-list] " Anil Madhavapeddy
2011-12-31 9:22 ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-09-09 16:29 ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-10 12:08 ` Hongbo Zhang [this message]
2012-09-10 12:18 ` [Caml-list] " bob zhang
2012-09-10 13:04 ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-11 12:27 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
2012-09-11 12:50 ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-11 13:41 ` AW: " Gerd Stolpmann
[not found] ` <1347370879.3496.9@samsung>
2012-09-11 14:02 ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-11 20:24 ` [Caml-list] Re: AW: " Hongbo Zhang
2012-09-11 23:13 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2012-09-12 5:16 ` Hongbo Zhang
2012-09-10 12:55 ` Wojciech Meyer
2012-09-10 13:52 ` Alain Frisch
2012-09-10 14:36 ` Paolo Donadeo
2012-09-18 6:08 ` [Caml-list] Slides of ML workshop (was: working %.pp.ml target with ocamfind/ocamlbuild) Alain Frisch
2012-09-20 21:04 ` [Caml-list] working %.pp.ml target with ocamfind/ocamlbuild Anil Madhavapeddy
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