From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A109ABC6B for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:48:27 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAOfHKkfRVYT1kGdsb2JhbACOagIBAQcCCCIFgRE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,362,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="18863627" Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2007 14:48:26 +0100 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so124756ana for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:48:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qDn8weovOcCchmCLHDal42ACBxwrV0oMIv14WycQKLY=; b=sDZ9vJGdNZEDVX4BVyr1rci8h+kaL88YcQBm/B1GpzKiuky2sIaj9I56n3+lIDJut/Lkct3AW3DV9jN4BHevJyw3HI1ii6C0C6rY/8XBmNvFM1Pg5gFN4XbnxbdW6PMBSizd4G3RMlMh4dcv0jhVt3c1e1nzmMHwMNSEwnxPpvs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Jb17/mw2PDtjpAfTfnFrMw8m1AEMfQhSi2wSOlJZ1Sx58GdC3c11RM3ZR0/HtAh1r9+eBMcw211VBGxL8oDnln1TWK/xAnVXtt4hv8SN5uUXBCKj+TbFxd4oMX1RkV7UIUGPKV4HXWy8j2csXG01+1CXZ7Bh6ZmUWU7avoefYm4= Received: by 10.142.49.4 with SMTP id w4mr433438wfw.1194011304670; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.135.17 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4d029f7e0711020648j13969281t61bb78a399367b53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:48:24 -0400 From: "Lars Nilsson" To: "Jon Harrop" Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Google trends Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr In-Reply-To: <200711020311.55032.jon@ffconsultancy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200711010102.39348.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <200711011631.35443.jon@ffconsultancy.com> <20071101181240.GB28124@furbychan.cocan.org> <200711020311.55032.jon@ffconsultancy.com> X-Spam: no; 0.00; nilsson:01 gcc:01 nilsson:01 blog:98 05.:98 wrote:01 caml-list:01 snip:02 snip:02 binary:02 implement:06 uses:07 rather:08 i'm:09 i'm:09 On 11/1/07, Jon Harrop wrote: > Surely you would not expect Microsoft to contribute to gcc or Mono rather than > starting their own projects? Actually, Microsoft does not have a total aversion to helping out when the topic is .NET. Case in point would be the Silverlight/Moonlight .NET layer for browser based applications. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Sep-05.html * Microsoft will give Novell access to the test suites for Silverlight to ensure that we have a compatible specification. The same test suite that Microsoft uses for Silverlight. * Microsoft will give us access to the Silverlight specifications: details that might be necessary to implement 1.0, beyond what is currently published on the web; and specifications on the 1.1 version of Silverlight as it is updated. * Microsoft will make the codecs for video and audio available to users of Moonlight from their web site. The codecs will be binary codecs, and they will only be licensed for use with Moonlight on a web browser (sorry, those are the rules for the Media codecs[1]). Personally, I'm using F# because it gives me a great platform for creating applications, not a bare-minimum for creating programs (not a topic I'm particularly interested in having a flame-war over. My choices are my own, others will have to deal with theirs). Lars Nilsson