From: Dawid Toton <d0@wp.pl>
To: rossberg@mpi-sws.org, caml-list <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: References and polymorphism
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:34:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F0D8FD6.1060605@wp.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <307f99bdbbb797985a66a4798b2dd1f1.squirrel@mail.mpi-sws.org>
On 2012-01-11 12:43, rossberg@mpi-sws.org wrote:
> Dawid Toton wrote:
>> Why not to just forbid too general 'a ref types? See the example from
>> the page cited above (with explicit quantifier added):
>>
>> let f : forall 'a. 'a -> 'a =
>> let r : 'a option ref = ref None in
>> fun x -> (* do evil things with the ref cell *)
>> let y = !r in
>> let () = r := Some x in
>> match y with
>> | None -> x
>> | Some y -> y
>>
>> The problem is that the 'a variable is bound by a general quantifier and
>> at the same time it is used to give a type to the ref cell. But if this
>> were forbidden, I see no need for the value restriction at all. For example:
>>
>> let g : forall 'a. 'a -> 'a =
>> fun (x : exists 'b. 'b) ->
>> let r : 'b option ref = ref None in
>> (* nothing bad can happen *)
>> ...
> Nothing useful can happen either. You could never read a value back from r
> and use/return it as an 'a or for anything else. So why would you want to
> store it there in the first place?
I can read from r and use it as 'b option. This is useful in general: a
mutable store can be used locally to speed up computations. I can
imagine working on 'b array to benefit from fast lookup.
> Also, I don't quite understand how your type annotations are supposed to
> match up. If x : exists 'b. 'b, then f can't be forall 'a. 'a -> 'a.
Use de Morgan's laws for quantifiers:
(∃x. x) → y
¬((∃x. x) ∧ ¬y)
¬(∃x. (x ∧ ¬y))
∀x.(¬(x ∧ ¬y))
∀x.(x → y)
I see, this is probably abuse of constructive logic in this case, but I
believe the idea stays the same.
Dawid
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-11 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-10 15:29 [Caml-list] " Dario Teixeira
2012-01-10 15:45 ` Romain Bardou
2012-01-10 16:31 ` Arnaud Spiwack
2012-01-10 17:00 ` Dario Teixeira
2012-01-10 17:20 ` David Allsopp
2012-01-10 18:59 ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-01-11 10:48 ` [Caml-list] " Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 11:07 ` Gabriel Scherer
2012-01-11 13:00 ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 13:15 ` rossberg
2012-01-11 13:56 ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-11 15:42 ` rossberg
2012-01-12 9:55 ` Dawid Toton
2012-01-12 10:05 ` Andrej Bauer
2012-01-12 10:46 ` Romain Bardou
2012-01-11 11:43 ` rossberg
2012-01-11 13:34 ` Dawid Toton [this message]
2012-01-11 15:34 ` rossberg
2012-01-11 13:57 ` Dawid Toton
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